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[News] On Microsoft's "Zealot" and "Religion" Slur Against FOSS

  • Subject: [News] On Microsoft's "Zealot" and "Religion" Slur Against FOSS
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:58:39 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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The Journalist Who Came in From the Cold

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| Is this is new position in Novell? If it is, why does a Linux company need an 
| evangelist? Isn't evangelism implied in the choice of services and product 
| offerings?  
| 
|     Well, it was originally called "Linux evangelist," but really, that 
|     didn't quite fit the bill, which is why the title was changed to openSUSE 
|     community manager, to better reflect what I'll be doing. Plus, I'm not 
|     crazy about the "evangelist" label. Too often, Linux advocates are 
|     derisively referred to as "zealots" and called "religious" about their 
|     advocacy--so I'd like to avoid a title that lends itself to that sort of 
|     thing.      
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http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/archives/080205-101522.html


Related:

Free software, free speech

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| If you win, your ego is boosted and when you lose you have at least learned 
| something. But there are a few tale-tell signs that indicate you've reached 
| the end of the line. When your opponent tells you to shut up, he's in fact 
| waving the white flag. When the name-calling starts it means he is out for a 
| final, berserk attack. It's not about the issue anymore, it's about you, the 
| messenger.     
| 
| I can understand that a teenage, underprivileged geek reacts like that, but 
| not mature people who are blessed with the gift of words and the privilege of 
| a good education. Regular visitors of my blog know that nothing outrages me 
| more than people who apply these guerrilla tactics. Whether it is Ian 
| Ferguson who said that "the flaming Linux bigots should take a backseat", 
| Mohit Joshi, who equaled GNU to communism or the more recently Bruce Byfield, 
| who obviously couldn't take the heat anymore and decided to proclaim 
| unilaterally that all bloggers who don't agree with him are 
| automatically "conspiracy theorists".        
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http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/2008/01/free-software-free-speech.html


Sounds like another fanboy rant to me

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| I found this comment while I was browsing through an MS-Windows oriented site 
| where a blogger said something nasty about Microsoft. It isn't even worth to 
| refer to the link, because it has nothing to do with this story. It's about 
| the name-calling these Microsoft fans do. I 
| heard 'zealots', 'bigots', 'advocates', the whole lot. Words I never knew 
| before, because English is not my native tongue. I don't mind to be called a 
| fanboy, because that is what I am. What may be not too clear to these 
| Microsoft zealots is why I am a fanboy. It's not because I really dig 
| this "free the software, free the world" ideology. That came much later. It's 
| because I like this "gimme the source" idea.         
| 
| [...]
| 
| As a matter of fact, I think that Microsoft itself has created the "Linux 
| fanboys" they are complaining about, just like all the legal trouble they 
| have found themselves in the last few decades. In Dutch there is a 
| saying "wie goed doet, goed ontmoet", which means that all good things come 
| to those who make them happen. I think the reverse is true as well. So next 
| time you call me a "Linux fanboy", remember why I became one. To all 
| those "Windows fanboys" I'd like to say, I've become a Linux fanboy because I 
| have used Linux for a long time. Have you? I know first hand what MS-Windows 
| is all about..        
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http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/2008/01/sounds-like-another-fanboy-rant-to-me.html


Are Linux users really a feral bunch?

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| It is, however, uncommon for a writer to set out to deliberately provoke 
| Linux users with over-the-top stuff - just to prove his contention that said  
| users are a bunch of ferals. 
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15198/1091/


How Not to Treat Your Readership

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| Given how the technology and methods the Linux community uses are constantly 
| villified, ridiculed, and held in contempt by competitors; by ill-informed IT 
| professionals and hobbyists; and now by journalists who use lies and 
| outrageous comments to hold the community's response up for ridicule--is it 
| any wonder why the community is so defensive in their responses?    
| 
| That's not a justification of bad behavior, but it certainly puts such 
| responses in another light.  
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http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-10-26-025-26-OP-CY


http://slated.org/linux_still_doesnt_make_it_on_desktop_is_pure_fud


http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf


In Defense Of Open Source

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| Naysayers position open source as a sort of geeky pleasure that’s best 
| reserved only for unwedded twenty- and thirty-something males residing in 
| basements owned by parental figures. That the Linux platform is the product 
| of a wide network of hobbyists. That the solutions which subsist within the 
| Linux system are not worth equal attention to big-name products from firms 
| like Microsoft, Adobe, Apple, and others.     
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http://www.profy.com/2007/08/30/in-defense-of-open-source/


>From Zero to Holy $&*#!

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| What if Linux and Free and Open Source Software became illegal to use due 
| to “national security?”  Never mind the fact that the American military uses 
| it.  Never mind the fact that Microsoft funded both political parties in the 
| year 2000.  Never mind that Richard Stallman has accused Microsoft of 
| enabling terrorism in the first place.    
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http://nixedblog.thenixedreport.com/?p=55


Top 5 Linux Myths

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| The sheer ignorance regarding casual Linux users astounds me to no end. While 
| I'm not interested in pointing fingers, there is a lot of misinformation 
| about the Linux community, and we will help to dispel some of these myths, 
| once and for all.   
| 
| 1. Linux Users Are Cheap. Ah, this is one of my favorites. It seems that 
| Linux users have long since been seen as cheap, despite the fact that so many  
| of them in the States earn up to six figures. First, define cheap? Are we 
| cheap because we choose not to buy brand new everything with every release of 
| our selected OS?   
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http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2618&Itemid=449


,----[ Quote ]
| "After a long and arduous journey that included a suspended validation last
| year .. OpenSSL has regained its FIPS 140-2 validation"
| 
| "We called it the FUD campaign," he says. "There were all kinds of
| complaints sent to the CMVP including one about 'Commie code.' .. Silly or
| no, each complaint that's filed really slows down the process."
| 
| "the ones they did see often contained redacted, or blacked-out, data about
| who had filed the complaint .. in some cases, proprietary software vendors
| were lodging the complaints.
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http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/08/1935232


The commie smear against open source

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| Because proprietary companies will always spend more of their
| money on marketing than open source outfits, it pops up regularly
| in the best of places, such as at Time Magazine recently. Or
| Microsoft sends CEO Steve Ballmer to London, so he can rant
| about how his lawyers are going to make all Linux users pay
| Microsoft for their stuff.
| 
| It's nonsense.
| 
| This is not "the gift economy," as Justin Fox calls it in Time.
| This is people taking advantage of the fact that the Internet
| has no distribution costs, which means marketing costs can
| also sink to zero. No ads in Time doesn't make you a communist.
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=946

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