Linonut <linonut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> * Mark Kent peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> There's no secret here, this is very much what they do. I'd suggest
>> that you try to avoid letting Weisgerber rile you, it's what he's here
>> for, and I'm sure he gets a personal kick from seeing you show any kind
>> of emotive reaction to his jibing. He's the kind of person who would be
>> clobbered in the pub in the end for his incessant unpleasantness, but on
>> usenet, it's more difficult, although not impossible, to stop, as
>> several regular shills have found.
>>
>> The killfile really is the proper solution. As you say, it would be
>> better for people to silently plonk, *or*, here's a new suggestion, how
>> about marking the message with [PLONK] in the subject, so that we can
>> all kfile on the marker, thus avoiding seeing the shillpost.
>
> Also, replying to amicus just gives him more opportunities to parrot the
> same statements, so that they get more hits in Google.
That's why he's here. I remain astonished that some of our regulars
seem unable to see this.
>
> He seems to imply that it is useless to push for desktop Linux, as if it
> were a completely different "market" than the server space. The server
> space is a bit different, because you have more perspicacious user, but
> the bottom line is that the Linux tools fit the needs of that space.
Desktop linux is being rolled out all over. We don't need to push for
it, it's happening because it's the only sensible thing to do. As you
say, it works.
>
> And the GNU/Linux tools are getting very close to fitting all of the
> needs of the consumer desktop space, in spite of the best efforts of
> Microsoft at maintaining their exclusive presenece in that space.
The value of lock-in fell dramatically as web-hosted capabilities
became commonplace and accepted, which came at about the same time as
ADSL to the home and WAN products for large organisations were available
from the telcos. Coupled with openoffice.org, there is nothing which
Microsoft offers which cannot be done less expensively, more securely,
more reliably and with lower lock-in risk on foss.
>
> The evidence for that is the sudden intrusion of low-end notebooks by
> name-vendors.
>
> This is an encouraging trend, not a discouraging one. So amicus and the
> like have to make us focus on the magnitude of the numbers, rather than
> the trends. And the trends are patently discouraging to Microsoft; just
> look at their actions/reactions.
>
That market is blossoming, reflecting the growth in mobility due to wifi
in the home on the end of ADSL links, and wifi on the end of WAN
products for larger organisations. The change in access capabilities
from the Telcos has probably had a greater impact on this area than
anything else.
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