____/ Kier on Wednesday 16 January 2008 10:02 : \____
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:57:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Tom Shelton on Wednesday 16 January 2008 07:40 : \____
>>
>>> On 2008-01-16, Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>> ____/ Tom Shelton on Tuesday 15 January 2008 23:52 : \____
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2008-01-15, Kier <vallon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:35:06 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>>>>> ____/ Mark Kent on Tuesday 15 January 2008 16:23 : \____
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I particularly liked the "More than £20 million" as the figure
>>>>>>>>>> given for the skin the BBC bought for Microsoft's Silverlight
>>>>>>>>>> player. Accepted estimates put the figure at around £100 million,
>>>>>>>>>> which would suggest that Mark Thompson's response should have been "
>>>>>>>>>> £80 million more than £20 million, in fact, coming to about £100
>>>>>>>>>> millions of licence-fee cash spent on a skin for a Microsoft-only
>>>>>>>>>> player".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heads should roll for this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, how can a DG /not/ know what the numbers were?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's with ActiveX anyway? It's kind of new to me. I saw another
>>>>>>>>> article about this later and they both seem to suggest that the BBC
>>>>>>>>> not only requires that you use Windows, but also that you use that
>>>>>>>>> buggy spyware called IE (no Firefox support). In case you didn't
>>>>>>>>> know, IE7 is spyware indeed... Microsoft keeps hush-hush about it,
>>>>>>>>> but it knows who you are and exactly what Web pages you visit! People
>>>>>>>>> must be told about this. The BBC puts you in DRM prison and forces
>>>>>>>>> you to use Windows and IE. Outrageous. How many Firefox users are
>>>>>>>>> there in the UK?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Microsoft Silverlight/iPlayer wasn't ever intended to promote
>>>>>>>> Firefox, rather, it was intended to use BBC Licence-payer cash to
>>>>>>>> support Microsoft's attack on Firefox, Mac and Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have any actual proof for this silly claim?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Especially since his full of total crap... Silverlight is supported on
>>>>>> Windows and Mac OS X (PPC and Intel) and by IE6,IE7, FireFox 1.5 and
>>>>>> 2.0,
>>>>>> and Safari. And MS is working with Novel to produce Moonlight - the
>>>>>> Linux version of Silverlight.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're talking about ActiveX (I was anyway).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point remains that Microsoft have never had any intention of making
>>>> Silverlight/iPlayer functional on anything other than Windows. After
>>>> spending £100 million of licence-fee payer's cash, even the BBC DG was
>>>> lying to MPs about this, although later claimed an "error".
>>>>
>>>> Kier is here to troll, as is Shelton. They're best ignored, Roy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are a real peice of work, Mark. I pointed you to a link with the
>>> supported platforms and browsers, yet you continue to insist on making
>>> this completely wrong statement.
>>>
>>> Silverlight supported platfomrs: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista, Mac OS
>>> (PPC and Intel). Linux support is in development.
>>
>> No, no Silverlight for Linux. And Moonlight ain't Silverlight either. Not
>> the mention patent and ditribution issues...
>
> The Linux player is in development. So unless you can *prove* it is not,
> maybe you'd better stop saying so.
>
>>
>>> Broswers: IE6, IE7, FireFox (1.5 and 2.0), Safari
>>
>> Did you know that Silverlight is said to "work better" with Vista? I'm
>> pretty
>
> What does that have to do with it? It still works on the other platforms
> mentioned.
No, not Linux. There is no Silverlight for Linux. Moonlight is a half-hearted
clone with a patent baggage.
>> sure I read this somewhere that's reliable. It's about making everyone but
>> Microsoft a second-class citizen _on the Web_. Not to worry. The EU
>> investigates this latest scam.
>
> Maybe you shoul stop and think. There is no 'scam' involved.
Yes, none. There's never bribery, just "marketing help". There's never
astroturfing, just "evangelism". There's never a restriction,
just "enablement". The BBC can spin this all they want, but I know what they
did and why they did this. Ask Erik Microsoft Huggers for starters.
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