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Re: [News] Linux Fury at MSBBC Claimed to be Justified

Mark Kent wrote:

> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>> ____/ Tom Shelton on Wednesday 16 January 2008 07:40 : \____
>> 
>>> On 2008-01-16, Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>> ____/ Tom Shelton on Tuesday 15 January 2008 23:52 : \____
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2008-01-15, Kier <vallon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:35:06 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>>>>> ____/ Mark Kent on Tuesday 15 January 2008 16:23 : \____
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I particularly liked the "More than £20 million" as the figure
>>>>>>>>>> given for the skin the BBC bought for Microsoft's Silverlight
>>>>>>>>>> player. Accepted estimates put the figure at around £100
>>>>>>>>>> million, which would suggest that Mark Thompson's response should
>>>>>>>>>> have been " £80 million more than £20 million, in fact, coming
>>>>>>>>>> to about £100 millions of licence-fee cash spent on a skin for a
>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft-only player".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Heads should roll for this.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, how can a DG /not/ know what the numbers were?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What's with ActiveX anyway? It's kind of new to me. I saw another
>>>>>>>>> article about this later and they both seem to suggest that the
>>>>>>>>> BBC not only requires that you use Windows, but also that you use
>>>>>>>>> that buggy spyware called IE (no Firefox support). In case you
>>>>>>>>> didn't know, IE7 is spyware indeed... Microsoft keeps hush-hush
>>>>>>>>> about it, but it knows who you are and exactly what Web pages you
>>>>>>>>> visit! People must be told about this. The BBC puts you in DRM
>>>>>>>>> prison and forces you to use Windows and IE. Outrageous. How many
>>>>>>>>> Firefox users are there in the UK?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The Microsoft Silverlight/iPlayer wasn't ever intended to promote
>>>>>>>> Firefox, rather, it was intended to use BBC Licence-payer cash to
>>>>>>>> support Microsoft's attack on Firefox, Mac and Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have any actual proof for this silly claim?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Especially since his full of total crap...  Silverlight is supported
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Windows and Mac OS X (PPC and Intel)  and by IE6,IE7, FireFox 1.5 and
>>>>>> 2.0,
>>>>>> and Safari.  And MS is working with Novel to produce Moonlight - the
>>>>>> Linux version of Silverlight.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We're talking about ActiveX (I was anyway).
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> The point remains that Microsoft have never had any intention of making
>>>> Silverlight/iPlayer functional on anything other than Windows.  After
>>>> spending £100 million of licence-fee payer's cash, even the BBC DG was
>>>> lying to MPs about this, although later claimed an "error".
>>>>
>>>> Kier is here to troll, as is Shelton.  They're best ignored, Roy.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> You are a real peice of work, Mark.  I pointed you to a link with the
>>> supported platforms and browsers, yet you continue to insist on making
>>> this completely wrong statement.
>>> 
>>> Silverlight supported platfomrs: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista, Mac OS
>>> (PPC and Intel).  Linux support is in development.
>> 
>> No, no Silverlight for Linux. And Moonlight ain't Silverlight either. Not
>> the mention patent and ditribution issues...
> 
> Of course there's no Silverlight for Linux, nor will there ever be.
> However, Silverlight/iPlayer doesn't work with Macs nor does it work
> with Linux.
> 
> Even the BBC's DG said so.

No, there isn't. It is called Moonlight 
And it is under development
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        If it starts working, we'll fix it.  Pronto.


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