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Re: [News] Linux Fury at MSBBC Claimed to be Justified

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> ____/ Tom Shelton on Wednesday 16 January 2008 07:40 : \____
> 
>> On 2008-01-16, Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>> ____/ Tom Shelton on Tuesday 15 January 2008 23:52 : \____
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2008-01-15, Kier <vallon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:35:06 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>>>> ____/ Mark Kent on Tuesday 15 January 2008 16:23 : \____
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I particularly liked the "More than £20 million" as the figure given
>>>>>>>>> for the skin the BBC bought for Microsoft's Silverlight player.
>>>>>>>>> Accepted estimates put the figure at around £100 million, which would
>>>>>>>>> suggest that Mark Thompson's response should have been " £80 million
>>>>>>>>> more than £20 million, in fact, coming to about £100 millions of
>>>>>>>>> licence-fee cash spent on a skin for a Microsoft-only player".
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Heads should roll for this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, how can a DG /not/ know what the numbers were?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What's with ActiveX anyway? It's kind of new to me. I saw another
>>>>>>>> article about this later and they both seem to suggest that the BBC not
>>>>>>>> only requires that you use Windows, but also that you use that buggy
>>>>>>>> spyware called IE (no Firefox support). In case you didn't know, IE7 is
>>>>>>>> spyware indeed... Microsoft keeps hush-hush about it, but it knows who
>>>>>>>> you are and exactly what Web pages you visit! People must be told about
>>>>>>>> this. The BBC puts you in DRM prison and forces you to use Windows and
>>>>>>>> IE. Outrageous. How many Firefox users are there in the UK?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Microsoft Silverlight/iPlayer wasn't ever intended to promote
>>>>>>> Firefox, rather, it was intended to use BBC Licence-payer cash to
>>>>>>> support Microsoft's attack on Firefox, Mac and Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any actual proof for this silly claim?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Especially since his full of total crap...  Silverlight is supported on
>>>>> Windows and Mac OS X (PPC and Intel)  and by IE6,IE7, FireFox 1.5 and 2.0,
>>>>> and Safari.  And MS is working with Novel to produce Moonlight - the Linux
>>>>> version of Silverlight.
>>>> 
>>>> We're talking about ActiveX (I was anyway).
>>>> 
>>>
>>> The point remains that Microsoft have never had any intention of making
>>> Silverlight/iPlayer functional on anything other than Windows.  After
>>> spending £100 million of licence-fee payer's cash, even the BBC DG was
>>> lying to MPs about this, although later claimed an "error".
>>>
>>> Kier is here to troll, as is Shelton.  They're best ignored, Roy.
>>>
>> 
>> You are a real peice of work, Mark.  I pointed you to a link with the
>> supported platforms and browsers, yet you continue to insist on making
>> this completely wrong statement.
>> 
>> Silverlight supported platfomrs: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista, Mac OS
>> (PPC and Intel).  Linux support is in development.
> 
> No, no Silverlight for Linux. And Moonlight ain't Silverlight either. Not the
> mention patent and ditribution issues...

Of course there's no Silverlight for Linux, nor will there ever be.
However, Silverlight/iPlayer doesn't work with Macs nor does it work
with Linux.

Even the BBC's DG said so.  

>  
>> Broswers: IE6, IE7, FireFox (1.5 and 2.0), Safari
> 
> Did you know that Silverlight is said to "work better" with Vista? I'm pretty
> sure I read this somewhere that's reliable. It's about making everyone but
> Microsoft a second-class citizen _on the Web_. Not to worry. The EU
> investigates this latest scam.
> 

Silverlight/iPlayer doesn't work with Firefox, Mac, Linux...  

Roy - stop feeding the shelton troll, please?

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