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Re: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Director Jumps Ship!!!

Subway steel <foo@xxxxxxx> espoused:
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> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
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>> ____/ Subway steel on Wednesday 18 June 2008 18:28 : \____
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>>> "Mark Kent" <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
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>>>>> Jon Shirley retiring from Microsoft board
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>>>>>| Jon Shirley, the former Microsoft president and a member of the
>>>>>company's
>>>>>| board for 25 years, won't seek another term as a director, the company
>>>>>| announced this afternoon.
>>>>> `----
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141395.asp?source=rss
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft Director Jon Shirley Won't Seek Re-Election
>>>>>
>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>| He stayed on the board after stepping down from the executive ranks in
>>>>>1990.
>>>>> `----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=MSFT:US&sid=a4WASw0CWkoE
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clearly, it's all over.
>>>
>>> What exactly is over - common sense and logic?
>>>
>>> From the article: - "Shirley, who retired from his executive position in
>>> 1990, points out in the news release that he turned 70 this year and says 
>>> he
>>> is reducing his professional commitments."
>>>
>>> Are people who are 70-something years old old not allowed to retire 
>>> because
>>> you and Roy think that it's somehow a negative reflection of the company?
>>> I'd say the fact that he retired in 1990 and spent 18 years serving on 
>>> the
>>> board of directors is a positive reflection of the company. Whereas 
>>> making a
>>> big stink that "it's clearly over" because a 70 year old wants to finally
>>> retire makes the two of you look rather stupid IMO.
>>
>> Why /now/ though?
> Why not now? If he retired a year ago, 2 years ago or 5 years from now you 
> could raise the question of "But why now" couldn't you? I certainly don't 
> speak for him but he did turn 70 years old this year so perhaps he just 
> wants to retire like he said. He's on the Forbes list as one of the 
> wealthiest men in America so why not now? After working his entire life at 
> what age is it okay to finally retire?
> 

If all were well, he would remain.  He's leaving to make room for people
who might be able to fix the problems.  He could've left 5 years ago,
sure, but then, things didn't seem so bad, then.

> 
>> If he worked until his 70s, then surely he has enjoyed it,
> Does this mean that he must continue working forever? Because eventually 
> everyone stops working and it doesn't mean there is a sinister reason behind 
> it.

There's nothing sinister about getting out when things are going badly,
which is what he's doing.  It's a very sensible thing to do, to make way
for people who might be able to rescue the sinking ship.

> 
> 
>> until now... my grandpa too worked until 70 something. He's retired now...
>> left years before the business was shut.
>> Why did Gates leave? And Poole? And Raikes? And Allchin? Coincidence?
> If I was any of those guys I would have retired years ago and would be 
> spending the rest of my life traveling the world and snowboarding. So the 
> question (rhetorical?) is why would someone with billions of dollars retire 
> in their mid 50's or 60's instead of working until the day they die. Does 
> this really require an answer?<g>
> 

It rather demonstrates that you just don't understand such people.  They
do *not* retire if there's more money to be made, they retire when they
realise that things are going badly indeed.  You or I might retire on a
few millions and congratulate ourselves, these people are so motivated
to make money that they cannot and do not give it up unless they really
cannot see any way forward at all.

If they're leaving, there's a good reason, and it's not "to spend more
time with my family" as the political euphemism goes.  Only the truly
naive would believe that, and I can't really believe that you're that
naive.

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