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[News] Sun Joins the Open Group; Advice Given for Shooting Down OOXML

  • Subject: [News] Sun Joins the Open Group; Advice Given for Shooting Down OOXML
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:44:47 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
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Sun Microsystems Joins Other Industry Leaders as Platinum Member of The Open
Group

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| The Open Group, a vendor- and technology-neutral consortium focused on open 
| standards and global interoperability within and between enterprises, today 
| announced that Sun Microsystems...  
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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080313/aqth053.html?.v=43

DIS 29500/OOXML - What you can do

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| I was at the OOXML BRM in Geneva on behalf of my national body. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| If you have strong feelings about the procedures used in the voting (e.g. the 
| O members vs P members debate, or the voting on issues that were not 
| individually discussed):  
| 
|     * Contact your national body
|     * Describe your concerns (with reference to the appropriate directives, 
|       if possible) 
|     * Allegations of corruption are unlikely to convince anyone of anything
|     * Ask your national body to investigate, and to raise an objection to the 
|     process if they are not satisfied 
| 
| I suspect that most national bodies will prefer communication via email -  
| it's easier for the NB to distribute it to any relevant committee members. 
| But some people feel that emails are cheap and easy, and sending a letter on 
| paper carries more weight: if you agree, then just be aware that there isn't 
| very much time before the decision on voting is due.     
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http://surguy.net/articles/ooxml-brm.xml


Related:

Danish Unix User Group Files Complaint With EU Commission Against Denmark For
Mandating MSOOXML

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| The Danish Unix User Group, DKUUG, has filed a formal complaint with the EU 
| Commission regarding Denmark's mandating ECMA 376, better known by us as 
| MSOOXML, for certain procurements.  
| 
| The complaint [PDF] is grounded in breach of the EC Treaty article 81 on 
| unfair competition. The press release says that the regulation "can be seen 
| as an attempt to continue the de facto monopoly of Microsoft in the Danish 
| state on office software, as the various public agencies and institutions 
| need to buy the products of Microsoft to comply to the regulation."     
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080226164131724


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| Re: In Denmark, Microsoft has 2 out of 4 votes
| 
| InzpektorInzpektor 18 Feb 2008, 15:20 BST
| 
| The Danish delegation for the BRM will consist of:
| 
|     * IBM
|     * Dansk Standard (the national standards body)
|     * Microsoft - Themselves!
|     * Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Ciber A/S
| 
| So, I guess that means that the Danish votes are a tie. (Ofcourse with the 
| national standards body being the joker here :-) ) 
| 
| Reference:
| http://www.ds.dk/3537 (In Danish)
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia


Microsoft influencing partner NGOs to support OOXML in India

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| Microsoft is encouraging its business partners to promote its Office Open XML 
| specification (OOXML) to the Indian Bureau of Standards (BIS) and Ministry of 
| IT. This move has incensed supporters of the rival OpenDocument Format (ODF) 
| who fear that the "soft" Indian state may not be able to stand up to 
| Microsoft pressure tactics.    
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http://www.linux.com/feature/128528


Bam! Comical Creese debunks OpenDocumentFormat Alliance

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| You are free to inspect the irregularities website that documents few cases 
| reported by the online press and blogs. We got much more reports on an 
| informal base per email. The Swedish single employee story is not credible, 
| actually committee stuffing took place in Sweden.   
| 
|     On loopholes, that’s another subjective call, but since Microsoft 
|     competitors managed to establish control over a standards initiative with 
|     potentially dire consequences for one of Microsoft’s most important 
|     business domains, we are not surprised that Microsoft (legitimately, 
|     albeit with what some consider to be poor standards etiquette) exploited 
|     the loopholes. As we noted, we assume ISO will update its procedures to 
|     eliminate the loopholes in the future.      
| 
| What?
| 
|     Microsoft competitors managed to establish control over a standards 
|     initiative… 
| 
| What?
| 
|     Microsoft competitors managed to establish control over a standards 
|     initiative with potentially dire consequences for one of Microsoft’s most 
|     important business domains, we are not surprised that Microsoft …
|     exploited the loopholes.   
| 
| ???
| 
|     but since Microsoft competitors managed to establish control over a 
|     standards initiative with potentially dire consequences for one of 
|     Microsoft’s most important business domains, we are not surprised that 
|     Microsoft (legitimately, albeit with what some consider to be poor 
|     standards etiquette) exploited the loopholes.    
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41447/bam-comical-creese-debunks-opendocumentformat-alliance


Microsoft’s secretive standards orgs in Former Yugoslavia

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| Croatian laws keep its national body’s votes secret, so the only way for the 
| Croatian public to find out how the process went would be if a board member 
| illegally leaked information out of CSI. This is, of course, unlikely to 
| happen. And the Serbian national standardization body is not officially 
| formed, so those two votes were easy for Microsoft, and probably not only 
| ones around the globe.      
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http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/092407-ooxml.html?page=1


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| Pieter Hintjens, president of the Foundation for a Free Information 
| Infrastructure, a non-profit organisation that is campaigning against the 
| Microsoft proposal, said: "We've recorded fairly systematic manipulation of 
| the voting process. We've seen what amounts to vote-buying in Italy, 
| Portugal, Colombia, Spain. In Sweden and Denmark, much the same happened – 
| Microsoft paying their business partners to join the vote."     
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http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=FT&Date=20070830&ID=7401878


Corrupt countries were more likely to support the OOXML document format

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| Is this just a random coincidence? The median of the CPI index of the above 
| mentioned 70 countries is 3.95. Of the most corrupted half (CPI index less 
| than 3.95) 23 or 77% voted for approval (approval or approval with comments) 
| and 7 or 23% for disapproval; 5 abstained. Of the least corrupted half (CPI 
| index more than 3.95) 13 or 54% voted for approval and 11 or 46% voted for 
| disapproval; 11 abstained - see the table below.      
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http://www.effi.org/blog/kai-2007-09-05.en.html


Microsoft accused of more OOXML standards fiddling 

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| However the 11 new countries are refusing to say how they will vote. These 
| include Cote d'Ivoire, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Malta, Pakistan, 
| Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela. Most people seem to think 
| that these have been put there by Vole to make sure the standard gets pushed 
| through.    
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42106


Robbery at the BRM?

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| LinuxWorld mentions that the BRM organisors are making a paper ballot on all 
| the 900 comments. It seems that the BRM organisors are "robbing national 
| delegations of the opportunity to propose their own modifications".  
| 
| [...]
| 
| The purpose of this robbery might be to avoid any fix to the standard. 
| MS-ECMA have not proposed any changes, and this robbery is designed to get 
| the message that the BRM have fixed some issues.  
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-43897/robbery-at-the-brm


Microsoft Memo to Partners in Sweden Surfaces: Vote Yes for OOXML - Updated

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| He acknowledges that the rules might need to be changed.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070829070630660


Microsoft Tech Ed 2007: OpenXML

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| He was asked "Why did Microsoft push OOXML through the "Fast Track" process 
| instead of the standard ISO process? Wouldn't they get less resistance than 
| faced now?"  
| 
| His response was very frank: "Office is a USD$10 billion revenue generator 
| for the company. When ODF was made an ISO standard, Microsoft had to react 
| quickly as certain governments have procurement policies which prefer ISO 
| standards. Ecma and OASIS are 'international standards', but ISO is the 
| international 'Gold Standard'. Microsoft therefore had to rush this standard 
| through. Its a simple matter of commercial interests!"     
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http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2007/09/microsoft-tech-.html

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