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Re: [News] Linux Foundation Talks Linux, Microsoft Invades As Usual

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> Linux Foundation: We'd love to work with Microsoft
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| InfoWorld: What kind of legal protection does Linux require? And has anything 
>| ever come of the Microsoft protest that there's Linux code that they patented 
>| or something to that effect?  
>| 
>| Zemlin: What they were talking about were patents that Microsoft holds in a 
>| range of areas. They didn't actually disclose what those were, but in general 
>| felt that they overlapped with other technology. No, nothing ever became of 
>| it because everybody holds patents on everything out there lately in 
>| software.     
>| 
>| InfoWorld: You have a legal defense fund. Should people have legal concerns 
>| about using Linux? 
>| 
>| Zemlin: Just like any other major software platform, there'll be patent 
>| trolls or opportunists who try to harm the platform. The SCO Group was a good 
>| example of that. In fact, the legal defense fund was created to assist in 
>| defense of the platform in the SCO lawsuit. And so that's a good example.    
>| 
>| InfoWorld: What became of that?
>| 
>| Zemlin: SCO lost the lawsuit, it was found that there were no copyright 
>| infringements that were there in the Linux platform, and it was proven that 
>| Novell indeed owned the copyright to the software that SCO alleged was 
>| theirs. And SCO was de-listed from Nasdaq and is now in bankruptcy 
>| proceedings.     
> `----
> 
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/12/Linux-Foundation-Wed-love-to-work-with-Microsoft_1.html
> 
> Remember that the LF is funded by Novell, which called Microsoft "a partner".
> Paul Krill continues with his pro-Microsoft headlines (done that a lot
> recently), which can be deceiving. There's also this:

LF is funded by a large number of organisations, though... 

> 
> The Linux Foundation Reveals Speaker Line-up for 2nd Annual Collaboration
> Summit
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Kernel developers, leading market research firm and companies such as Dell, 
>| HP, IBM, MySQL, and Oracle will debate growth opportunities for the platform 
> `----
> 
> http://linux-foundation.org/weblogs/press/2008/03/11/the-linux-foundation-reveals-speaker-line-up-for-2nd-annual-collaboration-summit/
> http://tinyurl.com/37dkpj
> 
> The talks include a Microsoft shill called Al Gillen, so Microsoft invades
> even /this/ event. They already have a keynote in OSBC 2008. Apologists like
> Walli and Ramji are used to do the negotiation. It's like a proxy gig.
> 
> 
> Recent:
> 
> Windows Server 2008 catching up with Linux
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Windows Server 2008  will never be Linux. And it's not likely to woo Linux 
>| users away from open source anytime soon. 
>| 
>| [...]
>| 
>| "There's an anti-Microsoft bias in Unixland," Gillen said. "The more 
>| Microsoft continues to erase objections [with features like PowerShell and 
>| Server Core], the harder it is to make the argument that Windows doesn't meet 
>| their needs."   
> `---- 
> 
> http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1302564,00.html
> 
> 
> Related:
> 
> "Consultants: These guys are your best bets as moderators. Get a well-known
> consultant on your side early, but don?t let him publish anything blatantly
> pro-Microsoft. Then, get him to propose himself to the conference organizers
> as a moderator, whenever a panel opportunity comes up. Since he?s well-known,
> but apparently independent, he?ll be accepted - one less thing for the
> constantly-overworked conference organizer to worry about, right?"
> 
>                                                 -- Microsoft
> 
> http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf
> 
> 
> Is Linux really losing market share to Windows?
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Should we be ready, as Kent Brockman might put it, to "welcome our new 
>| Microsoft overlords," or are the IDC Quarterly Server Tracker figures not 
>| really reflecting the reality of how servers are used in businesses? I, for 
>| one, think that what IDC is measuring and what server operating systems 
>| people are really using are two entirely different things.    
> `----
> 
> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8060720094.html
> 
> 
> Microsoft's Sponsored OOXML Study
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Today, Microsoft made available an IDC study about so-called open desktop 
>| file formats. It's yet another Microsoft propaganda effort, as a crucial 
>| format standards vote approaches.  
> `----
> 
> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/business_applications/microsofts_sponsored_ooxml_study.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
> http://tinyurl.com/2tx9eo
> 
> 
> IDC pronounces Linux unimportant to European economy [in Microsoft-commissioned
> study]
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| A recent IDC white paper on the economic impact of Microsoft's super
>| soaraway new Vista operating system seems to be lacking one crucial
>| ingredient -- other operating systems.
> `----
> 
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34542 
> 
> 
> NY Times bans Microsoft analysts from Microsoft stories
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Part of the problem stems from the reticence of companies such as
>| IDC and Gartner to reveal their clients. That should make everyone
>| nervous, but it doesn't. So called objective technology publications
>| keep publishing material bought by vendors without telling you this.
> `----
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/15/nytimes_ms_ban/
> 
> 
> Has IDC got the wrong number for iPhone? 
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| IDC has poured cold water on Apple's iPhone just days after a previous survey 
>| led M:Metrics to talk up the new entry to the cellphone stakes. But are the 
>| new numbers sound?   
>|
>| [...]
>|
>| The most obvious difference is in the sample size. M:Metrics had 
>| 11,060 respondents, IDC just 456. The sample space was also different, 
>| with M:Metrics apparently sampling from mobile phone subscribers, while 
>| IDC looked at online mobile phone shoppers.
> `----
> 
> http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13036&Itemid=1054
> 
> 
> IDC Study:
> 
> ,----[ Quotes with annotation ]
>| "(Microsoft manager:) I don't like the fact that the report show us losing
>| on TCO on webservers. I don't like the fact that the report show us losing
>| on availability (windows was down more than linux). And I don't like the
>| fact that the reports says nothing new is coming with windows .net server."
>|
>| [...]
>|
>| "I don't like it to be public on the doc that we sponsored it because I
>| don't think the outcome is as favorable as we had hoped. I just don't like
>| competitors using it as ammo against us. It is easier if it doesn't mention
>| that we sponsored it."
> `----
> 
> http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/9000/PX09695.pdf
> 
> 
> Vista filip for US states, claims IDC
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| While reviewers debate the merits of Windows Vista and analysts puzzle the 
>| over the pace of adoption, IDC and Microsoft are in little doubt over its 
>| impact for the economies of America's 50 states.
>| 
>| To date, IDC has estimated Windows Vista will create 37,000 new jobs and 
>| generate $15.5bn in related products and services across just four US 
>| states.
> `----
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/24/microsoft_windows_vista_idc/
> 
> 
> IDC report on Open Document Standards
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| This study is a fact-based analysis of the emerging open document
>| standards, Open XML and ODF.
> `----
> 
> http://openxmldeveloper.org/archive/2006/11/27/IDC_Open_Document_Standards.aspx
> 
> 
> Vista launch to add 100,000 Europe IT jobs: study
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| The study, conducted by research firm IDC and commissioned by Microsoft,
>| said Windows Vista will be installed on over 30 million personal computers
>| in Denmark, France, Germany, Poland, Spain and United Kingdom within the
>| first year of shipment.
> `----
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060914/tc_nm/microsoft_study_dc
> 
> 
> Shill season
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| It's often difficult to figure out the motivation behind a particular
>| study - until one finds out who has commissioned and paid for it.
>| The so-called tech consulting companies would love it if the consumer
>| believes that they have conducted an "independent" study. The worrying
>| thing is that not many people blow their cover.
> `----
> 
> http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8109/1090/
> 
> 
> Microsoft Press Releases: Read Between the Lines
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| We have a game we play around the office here with Microsoft press
>| releases. The game is called Find the words that make the headline
>| true. It's not always easy.
>| 
>| [...]
>| 
>| Our point: Microsoft has a long history of using press releases top
>| romote their product momentum in shall we say interesting ways,
>| using words like "fastest growing" (meaning, the number we started
>| with was really really small) to redefining words such as "sold."
>| It's not good marketing practice. Why? Because once consumers and
>| press people figure out you are playing lawyer, they stop believing
>| you and your brand. And that's more likely to do you harm than good.
> `----
> 
> http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/061211/22190_id.html?.v=1
> 
> 
> NY Times bans Microsoft analysts from Microsoft stories
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/15/nytimes_ms_ban/
> 
> 
> [Some more at the end of this podcast]:
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/07/open_season_seven/


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