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[News] Linux Foundation Talks Linux, Microsoft Invades As Usual

  • Subject: [News] Linux Foundation Talks Linux, Microsoft Invades As Usual
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:19:49 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Linux Foundation: We'd love to work with Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| InfoWorld: What kind of legal protection does Linux require? And has anything 
| ever come of the Microsoft protest that there's Linux code that they patented 
| or something to that effect?  
| 
| Zemlin: What they were talking about were patents that Microsoft holds in a 
| range of areas. They didn't actually disclose what those were, but in general 
| felt that they overlapped with other technology. No, nothing ever became of 
| it because everybody holds patents on everything out there lately in 
| software.     
| 
| InfoWorld: You have a legal defense fund. Should people have legal concerns 
| about using Linux? 
| 
| Zemlin: Just like any other major software platform, there'll be patent 
| trolls or opportunists who try to harm the platform. The SCO Group was a good 
| example of that. In fact, the legal defense fund was created to assist in 
| defense of the platform in the SCO lawsuit. And so that's a good example.    
| 
| InfoWorld: What became of that?
| 
| Zemlin: SCO lost the lawsuit, it was found that there were no copyright 
| infringements that were there in the Linux platform, and it was proven that 
| Novell indeed owned the copyright to the software that SCO alleged was 
| theirs. And SCO was de-listed from Nasdaq and is now in bankruptcy 
| proceedings.     
`----

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/12/Linux-Foundation-Wed-love-to-work-with-Microsoft_1.html

Remember that the LF is funded by Novell, which called Microsoft "a partner".
Paul Krill continues with his pro-Microsoft headlines (done that a lot
recently), which can be deceiving. There's also this:

The Linux Foundation Reveals Speaker Line-up for 2nd Annual Collaboration
Summit

,----[ Quote ]
| Kernel developers, leading market research firm and companies such as Dell, 
| HP, IBM, MySQL, and Oracle will debate growth opportunities for the platform 
`----

http://linux-foundation.org/weblogs/press/2008/03/11/the-linux-foundation-reveals-speaker-line-up-for-2nd-annual-collaboration-summit/
http://tinyurl.com/37dkpj

The talks include a Microsoft shill called Al Gillen, so Microsoft invades
even /this/ event. They already have a keynote in OSBC 2008. Apologists like
Walli and Ramji are used to do the negotiation. It's like a proxy gig.


Recent:

Windows Server 2008 catching up with Linux

,----[ Quote ]
| Windows Server 2008  will never be Linux. And it's not likely to woo Linux 
| users away from open source anytime soon. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| "There's an anti-Microsoft bias in Unixland," Gillen said. "The more 
| Microsoft continues to erase objections [with features like PowerShell and 
| Server Core], the harder it is to make the argument that Windows doesn't meet 
| their needs."   
`---- 

http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1302564,00.html


Related:

"Consultants: These guys are your best bets as moderators. Get a well-known
consultant on your side early, but don’t let him publish anything blatantly
pro-Microsoft. Then, get him to propose himself to the conference organizers
as a moderator, whenever a panel opportunity comes up. Since he’s well-known,
but apparently independent, he’ll be accepted - one less thing for the
constantly-overworked conference organizer to worry about, right?"

                                                -- Microsoft

http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf


Is Linux really losing market share to Windows?

,----[ Quote ]
| Should we be ready, as Kent Brockman might put it, to "welcome our new 
| Microsoft overlords," or are the IDC Quarterly Server Tracker figures not 
| really reflecting the reality of how servers are used in businesses? I, for 
| one, think that what IDC is measuring and what server operating systems 
| people are really using are two entirely different things.    
`----

http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8060720094.html


Microsoft's Sponsored OOXML Study

,----[ Quote ]
| Today, Microsoft made available an IDC study about so-called open desktop 
| file formats. It's yet another Microsoft propaganda effort, as a crucial 
| format standards vote approaches.  
`----

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/business_applications/microsofts_sponsored_ooxml_study.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
http://tinyurl.com/2tx9eo


IDC pronounces Linux unimportant to European economy [in Microsoft-commissioned
study]

,----[ Quote ]
| A recent IDC white paper on the economic impact of Microsoft's super
| soaraway new Vista operating system seems to be lacking one crucial
| ingredient -- other operating systems.
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34542 


NY Times bans Microsoft analysts from Microsoft stories

,----[ Quote ]
| Part of the problem stems from the reticence of companies such as
| IDC and Gartner to reveal their clients. That should make everyone
| nervous, but it doesn't. So called objective technology publications
| keep publishing material bought by vendors without telling you this.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/15/nytimes_ms_ban/


Has IDC got the wrong number for iPhone? 

,----[ Quote ]
| IDC has poured cold water on Apple's iPhone just days after a previous survey 
| led M:Metrics to talk up the new entry to the cellphone stakes. But are the 
| new numbers sound?   
|
| [...]
|
| The most obvious difference is in the sample size. M:Metrics had 
| 11,060 respondents, IDC just 456. The sample space was also different, 
| with M:Metrics apparently sampling from mobile phone subscribers, while 
| IDC looked at online mobile phone shoppers.
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13036&Itemid=1054


IDC Study:

,----[ Quotes with annotation ]
| "(Microsoft manager:) I don't like the fact that the report show us losing
| on TCO on webservers. I don't like the fact that the report show us losing
| on availability (windows was down more than linux). And I don't like the
| fact that the reports says nothing new is coming with windows .net server."
|
| [...]
|
| "I don't like it to be public on the doc that we sponsored it because I
| don't think the outcome is as favorable as we had hoped. I just don't like
| competitors using it as ammo against us. It is easier if it doesn't mention
| that we sponsored it."
`----

http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/9000/PX09695.pdf


Vista filip for US states, claims IDC

,----[ Quote ]
| While reviewers debate the merits of Windows Vista and analysts puzzle the 
| over the pace of adoption, IDC and Microsoft are in little doubt over its 
| impact for the economies of America's 50 states.
| 
| To date, IDC has estimated Windows Vista will create 37,000 new jobs and 
| generate $15.5bn in related products and services across just four US 
| states.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/24/microsoft_windows_vista_idc/


IDC report on Open Document Standards

,----[ Quote ]
| This study is a fact-based analysis of the emerging open document
| standards, Open XML and ODF.
`----

http://openxmldeveloper.org/archive/2006/11/27/IDC_Open_Document_Standards.aspx


Vista launch to add 100,000 Europe IT jobs: study

,----[ Quote ]
| The study, conducted by research firm IDC and commissioned by Microsoft,
| said Windows Vista will be installed on over 30 million personal computers
| in Denmark, France, Germany, Poland, Spain and United Kingdom within the
| first year of shipment.
`----

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060914/tc_nm/microsoft_study_dc


Shill season

,----[ Quote ]
| It's often difficult to figure out the motivation behind a particular
| study - until one finds out who has commissioned and paid for it.
| The so-called tech consulting companies would love it if the consumer
| believes that they have conducted an "independent" study. The worrying
| thing is that not many people blow their cover.
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8109/1090/


Microsoft Press Releases: Read Between the Lines

,----[ Quote ]
| We have a game we play around the office here with Microsoft press
| releases. The game is called Find the words that make the headline
| true. It's not always easy.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Our point: Microsoft has a long history of using press releases top
| romote their product momentum in shall we say interesting ways,
| using words like "fastest growing" (meaning, the number we started
| with was really really small) to redefining words such as "sold."
| It's not good marketing practice. Why? Because once consumers and
| press people figure out you are playing lawyer, they stop believing
| you and your brand. And that's more likely to do you harm than good.
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/061211/22190_id.html?.v=1


NY Times bans Microsoft analysts from Microsoft stories

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/15/nytimes_ms_ban/


[Some more at the end of this podcast]:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/07/open_season_seven/

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