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[News] Another Anti-Internet Explorer Campaign Launched, Opera Passes Acid3

  • Subject: [News] Another Anti-Internet Explorer Campaign Launched, Opera Passes Acid3
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:47:49 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Dump IE 6 campaign runs afoul of dump IE 6 campaign

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| While Hudin acknowledged that two people can have the same idea, he noted 
| that he kicked off his campaign - End 6! - last year and registered the 
| domain name in October 2007.  
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http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/03/26/internet_explorer_six_save_developers/

Opera and the Acid3 Test

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| We have some excellent news! Lars Erik Bolstad, the Head of Core Technology 
| at Opera Software, sent me the following information to share... 
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http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/03/26/opera-and-the-acid3-test

IE remains _by far_ the least standards-compliant Web browser. How come such a
large software company cannot obey or at least implement real standards
properly? It does not want to. The 'precious' shareholders want Microsoft to
break the Web.


Recent:

IE8: The Bad

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| There are quite a few good things about the Microsoft release, such as 
| showing that HTML5 is looked at, Acid2 is (almost) being passed, and CSS 
| support is improving, but there are quite a few evil things as well...  
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http://annevankesteren.nl/2008/03/ie8-bad


ACID3 and Konqueror

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| As you can see, amongst stable versions (in bold), Konqueror beats them all. 
| Hip, hip, hooray for Konqueror (KHTML) devs! And one hip and hooray for 
| WebKit!  
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http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/03/04/acid3-and-konqueror/


Related:

Users, Web developers vent over IE7

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| Users of Internet Explorer 7 (IE7) turned a blog post by a Microsoft program 
| manager into a complaint free-for-all that took the company to task for not 
| following through on browser upgrade promises and alienating Web developers.  
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http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1740365349&rid=-50


IE7 still creating problems for developers?

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| For the last couple of years, we developers have been struggling with
| IE incompatibilities while creating and testing our sites. Those
| include the non-native support for PNG transparencies, the box model
| bug, and many many more.
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http://devthought.com/ie7-still-creating-problems-for-developers/


Related:

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| From:       Bill Gates
| Sent:       Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To:         Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc:         Paul Mariz
| Subject:    Office rendering
| 
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office 
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the 
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
| 
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
| 
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to  to destroy Windows.
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf


CLARION CALL: IE 7 Not Ready For Prime Time

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| Either leave your dog at home, or make sure it's trained better
| before inviting it into my house to make a mess on my carpet.
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http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/18/clarion-call-ie-7-not-ready-for-prime-time/


IE7 Web Developers Nightmare

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| IE7 is a night mare for most of the developers that try to comply
| with standards for crossbrowsing.
| I recently needed to rewrite a web site so it works on firefox too...
| the surprising element was that when testing the new and the old site
| on IE7 I found out that many things does not function as expected and
| "not function as expected" isn't the right word for it, it was more
| a question of working at all.
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http://it-gears.blogspot.com/2007/01/ie7-nightmare-for-web-developers.html


Why Microsoft Expression Web redefines irony

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| Expression is Microsoft's suite of web development tools slated to
| replace the wonderful application known as Front Page. A quick visit
| to the site for this tool yields a fairly typical Microsoft webpage.
| 
| [...]
| 
| WHOA! Did they not even listen to their own marketing garbage? 144
| Errors! No DocType? Are you kidding me?
| 
| [...]
| 
| Bravo to our good friends at Microsoft for setting such a great example
| and leading the masses to a more standards compliant internet! (and
| for giving web standards geeks something to hate on).
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http://shifteleven.com/articles/2006/11/16/why-microsoft-expression-web-redefines-irony


Wake up and smell the IE7!

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| The results of our study suggest that around 12.7 million websites are
| in need of a little TLC because of IE7. Maybe even more.
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http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/wake-up-and-smell-the-ie7


Funny Thing - M$

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| Last night Joe and I got in this huge discussion, and I was cursing out 
| Microsoft. It’s been rough the past couple of days and M$ has not been making 
| my life very easy. Every time I turn around I have to ghetto-fy my web sites 
| to make them work in IE…   
| 
| See… There are these things called Web Standards which were put into place to 
| make web designer’s lives easier. As in, if they script to web standards, 
| then all standards compliant browsers will show the site exactly correct. 
| Well, I always script to web standards. The PROBLEM is that Microsoft decides
| that they are just going to do things THEIR way...    
| 
| [...]
| 
| Besides the fact that all of the Microsoft employees I have ever encountered 
| must have been brainwashed. I don’t know where they dig these people up. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| And if they AREN’T brainwashing them, then they are just hiring incompetant, 
| pompous dumbasses. And if either is the case, why should anyone support their 
| company?  
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http://www.camp-site.org/blog/?p=21


Vista IE7 issue remains unsolved for many users

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| When I read stuff like this, it confirms my belief that there’s something 
| very broken in the world of Vista. Here’s a very knowledgeable user and 
| talented developer who’s confounded and befuddled by a well-documented and 
| still unaddressed issue affecting Vista users running Internet Explorer 7.   
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http://techomg.com/vista-ie7-issue-remains-unsolved-for-many-users/


ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack

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| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon for
| network applications.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS_Accuses_Microsoft_of_Plotting_HTML_Hijack/1169824569


Is Microsoft learning from Web standards mistakes?

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| In a video interview with ZDNet Australia last month, Microsoft blogger and 
| group manager of technical community, Frank Arrigo, explained how important 
| it is for the Redmond giant to follow Web standards.  
| 
| "Standards are important," said Arrigo, who admitted that Microsoft had been 
|                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| guilty of ignoring them in the past. "If you look at IE6, we didn't quite 
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| follow all the standards but standards are important ... IE7 as an example is 
| trying to address that."   
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Is-Microsoft-learning-from-Web-standards-mistakes-/0,130061733,339280240,00.htm

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