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Re: KDE 4.1 Reaches Beta and Looks Great

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, relic
<bogus.relic2@xxxxxxx>
 wrote
on Thu, 29 May 2008 09:50:57 -0700
<483eded7$0$7711$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> AqD wrote:
>> On May 29, 4:57 am, JEDIDIAH <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 2008-05-28, AqD <aquila.d...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>>> But still, it's not compelling enough to migrate back.
>>>
>>>> They spent so much time on improving the infrastructure, but many
>>>> basic applications are still lacking. It'd be much better if they
>>>> put more resource on wine and make the emulation layer 100%
>>>> compatible with xp.
>>>
>>> So what great XP program(s) am I missing?
>>
>> - GUI database management tools. Ex: navicat  There are linux ones but
>> they all suck (get mysql-gui-tools and u'd see)
>> - Analysis softwares for financial markets. Ex: tradestation,
>> ninjatrader, etc.
>> - Special file converters. Ex: PDF2XL It grabs tables from PDF and
>> exports to excel.
>> - Human language translation softwares. Ex: @Promt  (NOT simple
>> dictionaries)
>
> That's not fair!
>
> linux is not a production environment. linux only allows you to brag that it 
> does everything whether it does or not.
>

Bear in mind Linux does *none* of the above anyway,
unless one is referring to such lowlevel issues as socket
management, packet routing, program execution, and file I/O.

I'm not even sure Linux does display (framebuffer module
is part of Linux, but X is not -- call it half and half).

Personally, I think DB nav tools need heavy customization
before they're usable; certainly that's the case here
at $EMPLOYER.  The raw records have meaning but only in
an isolated sense.

I don't see anything that specifically needs Win32, but
Win32 is probably the most convenient platform for most of
them (mostly because Win32 is the most ubiquitous -- even
Linux distros have Win32, courtesy of WinE).  All of German,
French, and English can be used to ask where the restroom is,
but in the US, one's much more likely to hear "Where's the
restroom?" as opposed to "Wo ist das WasserKlosette?" (or
whatever it is, my Deutsch is very rusty).  Win32 is the
lingua fraca of programming nowadays -- though it's hard to
say for how long in light of Windows' surrounding issues,
plus up-and-comers such as Java (which isn't all that new
anymore, but has carved out a nice large niche), Python,
PHP, EJB, and SOAP.  (The last two aren't quite complete,
but do fit in.)

And you're right, Linux is not a production environment,
though there *are* many production environments that use
Linux (plus Apache, plus Bourne shell, plus maybe Java,
PHP, Python, database access drivers, load distributors,
etc.)  The only thing the user sees, though, is Apache,
and only dimly through its packet responses to HTTP requests.

In theory, IIS could do 99% of what Apache does, though IIS
has some stability issues.  (IIS6 can, however, run PHP.)

-- 
#191, ewill3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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