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Alex Brown: OOXML Revealed "JTC1 Procedures Were Rubbish" -- Sure Enough,
Problems Surface
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| Alex Brown recently tweeted to Microsoft's Doug Mahugh the following about
| OOXML:
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| OOXML=tought [sic] fights; revealed JTC 1 procedures were rubbish.
|
| The OOXML approval was marred by procedures that were rubbish, eh? How about
| the result, then? Wasn't that exactly what the four appeals against adoption
| of OOXML stated as one basis, that the process was essentially rubbish? Were
| they right? One year later, it seems there are indeed some problems. Brown
| tells us on his blog that at the BRM "a number of existing Ecma-376 documents
| were unintentionally made invalid against the IS29500 transitional schema".
|
| Oops.
|
| The UK, he writes, now is suggesting a retroactive fix to undo the changes
| made at the BRM. Say, what? Rubbish though they be, is there any JTC1
| procedure that makes *that* an appropriate way forward? If so, why bother to
| even meet? Just let Microsoft or its little elves slip in anything they want
| and call it good.
|
| That's not all. According to Jomar Silva of Brazil, who attended the BRM and
| just received the secret report on progress on OOXML, several items that were
| supposed to be fixed are still not incorporated into the published text of
| the standard one year later, despite the fact that he says some voted a
| conditional Yes, contingent on those changes being made.
|
| If you are considering whether or not to adopt IS29500, what should that tell
| you? That maybe you should wait until they get the kinks out?
|
| [...]
|
| [W]hy were the appeals denied? I know the JTC1 folks don't care, but if you
| are thinking about adoption of ODF and/or OOXML, and you care about truly
| open standards, shouldn't you?
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090412131523897
Hehe. I snitched on his twits.
Related:
South Africa Files Official Appeal Re OOXML - OOXML in Limbo Now
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| I wonder if this is why Microsoft suddenly decided to support ODF, to avoid
| being shut out completely pending the appeal. Might other national bodies be
| considering doing the same thing? Stay tuned.
|
| [...]
|
| So. OOXML is not currently an official standard? I think that is what this
| means. It will take months, at least, I believe, to resolve this. So, to me
| the ODF support announcement by Microsoft yesterday suddenly makes sense. I
| wrote a bit about the appeal process here, if you want to review it. In the
| immortal words of Yogi Berra, it ain't over till it's over.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080523130503456
New doubts about ISO's fast-track standardisation of Microsoft OOXML
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| An internal document of the International Standards Organization (ISO) that
| found its way late last week on to the Wikileaks whistle-blower platform
| raises further questions about the choice of a fast-track certification for
| Microsoft's OOXML document format. The paper, by Joint Technical Committee
| No. 1 (JTC 1) of the Geneva standards organization, which dates back to July
| 2007, says the fast track procedure chosen for certifying Microsoft's
| document format is only intended for the acceptance of unaltered standards
| and that a standard not accepted in its original form, while not to be
| regarded as "2nd class" or illegitimate, should be put through the normal
| five-stage standardisation process, should necessary corrections be
| identified in advance. The fast-track process, it says, is intended for
| making changes to an original draft.
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http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/New-doubts-about-ISO-s-fast-track-standardisation-of-Microsoft-OOXML--/111065
Puppet countries leaves P membership
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| Microsoft Puppet countries are leaving the P membership. Lebanon, Turkey,
| Cyprus, and Trinidad & Tobago have already dropped out. All those countries
| voted Yes without comments to OOXML.
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-59702/puppet-countries-leaves-p-membership
Martin Bryan: we are getting “standardization by corporation”
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| A November informative report of Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34
| WG1 highlights the fallout of the ECMA-376 fast-track process for ISO. He
| says he is 'glad to be retiring before the situation becomes impossible'
|
| [...]
|
| In what is an astonishingly outspoken report, Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 has given us insight into the total mess that Microsoft/ECMA
| have caused during their scandalous, underhand and unremitting attempts to
| get - what is a very poorly written specification {i.e. DIS 29500 aka OOXML,
| AR} - approved as an ISO standard. …
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-30107/martin-bryan:we-are-getting-standardization-by-corporation
Microsoft accused of stacking ISO committee
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| In a memo sent following his last meeting as head of the working group on
| WG1, which is handling Microsoft’s application to make the Word format an ISO
| standard as ECMA 376, outgoing Governor Martin Bryan (above), an expert on
| SGML and XML, accused the company of stacking his group.
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1777
EU Commission Investigating Microsoft's MSOOXML Push
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| I hope they think to investigate the smear campaigns that seem to always
| happen to anyone on the other side from Microsoft. What happened to Peter
| Quinn was by no means unique.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080208151410252
Software wars
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| Allegations of committee-stuffing, the outcome of votes overridden by
| political appointees, a final decision that many involved consider tainted:
| this may sound like a discredited election in some third world country. But
| it is actually a description of an ugly fight over international technical
| standards that wrapped up this week. Microsoft came out on top, but at the
| cost of tarnishing its reputation and the credibility of an important
| back-room process that oils the wheels of many global industries.
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/c9743360-01a8-11dd-a323-000077b07658,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fc9743360-01a8-11dd-a323-000077b07658.html%3Fnclick_check%3D1&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworlduk.com%2Ftool
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