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Microsoft manager: "Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on
and steal the Java language."
Nice company...
No wonder Miguel et al love them so much.
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From: Russ Arun
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 6:13 PM
To: Prashant Sridharan
Subject: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
Cross platform is a red herring that is not worth spending time on. Based all
the numbers we see it is interestingly more irrelevant now than it was 5 years
ago when I joined MS.
However we need to coopt the best lessons from Java into Windows.
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From: Prashant Sridharan
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 6:07 PM
To: Russ Arun
Subhect: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
If we, as a company, are interested in promoting Windows, why bother with AFC?
In my own opinion (apart from Ironwood, J/Direct, or any of the other
politically-charged topics now), we are horribly inconsistent in this regard.
Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java
language.
That said, have we ever taken a look at how long it would take Microsoft to
build a cross-platform Java that did work? Naturally, we would never do it,
but it would give us some idea of how much time we have to work with in
killing Sun's Java.
Prashant Sridharan
Visual J++ Product Manager
preshant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
(425) 703-4682
http://www.mediacity.com/-heath
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From: Russ Arun
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 5:29 PM
To: Preshant Sridharan
Subhect: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
It is in Sun's interest to be cross platform. NT is eating share fast. So
they are scrambling to find something and Java is their best hope. But for
Java they would be in trouble.
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From: Preshant Sridharan
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 5:25 PM
To: Russ Arun
Subject: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
Agreed on x-plat. Screw Sun.
Of course, you and I probably have some old Sun buddies that would think
otherwise :-)
Prashant Sridharan
Visual J++ Product Manager
preshant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
(425) 703-4682
http://www.mediacity.com/-heath
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- -----Original Message-----
From: Russ Arun
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 5:23 PM
To: Prashant Sridharan
Subhect: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
Don't care about cross platform in future - pretense or otherwise. AFC is the
closest to this at this point.
Yes - we are shipping the Microsoft JDBC-ODBC bridge that came from Intersolv
and supports JDBC.
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From: Prashant Sridharan
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 5:12 PM
To: Russ Arun
Subject: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
Russ,
I am now joining in this thread, so forgive the silly question. Are we not
shipping JDBC at all with the SDK 2.0?
Do we have any pretense of cross-platform left? ;-)
Prashant Sridharan
Visual J++ Product Manager
preshant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
(425) 703-4682
http://www.mediacity.com/-heath
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From: Russ Arun
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 5:09 PM
To: Java Discussion Alias: Craig Longman (Excell Data Corporation)
Subject: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
In theory having both JDBC (the deprecated one) and MSJDBC (the Microsoft
JDBC-ODBC bridge) is OK, but you will have spurious classes that I would worry
about you relying on.
JDBC can be rid off by deleting JDBC.zip and any other muck should clear itself
as part of the VM install.
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From: Craig Longman (Excell Data Corporation)
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 4:59 PM
To: Java Discussion Alias
Subject: RE: More Questions about ADO in java...
>in the words of 'Russ Arun'
>* JDBC.zip is not being shipped - so you relying on it is not good
Ahh. I just looked over the docs again, and I must admit I failed to notice
the 'ms' in front of the jdbc.exe file to run. After running that, I get the
Intersolv stuff installed just great, and everything is running fine.
Now if I can just figure out why multiple result sets in a single statement are
not working correctly...
Does anyone know where I can report bugs on the jdbc-odbc bridge?
> - You might want to uninstall your VM and install the latest VM or IE
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of us to look forward to, no doubt.
>* There are examples in the SDK that might help you
Aside from the SimpleSelect.java that was changed to use MSs new naming
conventions before they had the Intersolv which has the same naming
conventions and can now use the standard sample, I couldn't find anything in
the samples that helped in any way what-so-ever.
Cheers, and thanks for the help.
CraigL->Thx():
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