On Jun 24, 5:32 pm, Homer <use...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
> > Or maybe that should read "still at it".
> >http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/6/15/4
> > Date Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:33:24 -0600 (MDT)
> > Subject Xen vs. KVM
> > From jmerkey@wolfmoun ...
> > Personally, they are nothing but
> > piracy tools used to hijack and run
> > multiple hijacked copies of windows
> > -- even in reputable systems
> > houses.
Actually, it's simply a way to run downgraded versions of Windows on
machines which were purchased with OEM Windows licenses.
> > I was working on VM/ESA and mainframe
> > operating systems before linux
> > even existed and am familar with the issues.
Heck, VM started before even UNIX existed. IBM developed the first
virtualized machines back in the late 1960s for customers who didn't
want to pay for multiple mainframes to develop applications that might
never make it to production. Typically Production systems require
more CPU, memory, and storage than development systems. If you
purchase a dedicated mainframe for coding and development, another for
testing, and another for production, you have to pay for 3 mainframes,
and you might still want another mainframe to back up the production
mainframe.
However, with Virtualizaton, you could have two mainframes, and in an
emergency use the develompent/test machine as a back-up system in the
event that the production fails.
> Hijacking?
> Isn't that what Microsoft does to netbooks?http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090619161307529
It's what Microsoft does to most innovation. It doesn't simply pirate
the technology of other companies, it finds or creates a shell
company, feeds them enough to create cheap knock-offs of top emerging
technologies, adds a few "lock-in" features, and then purchase the
rights from the shell company.
For example, when Microsoft discovered that Mosaic was creating a hot
market for Linux and Unix including giving millions of users a way to
interact with Unix systems. To maintain their control of access, and
to make it look like it was Windows doing it all, Microsoft needed to
control the browser market.
The problem was that Marc Andreeson had contributed the code to the
NCSA under a license which was very similar to GPL. Even worse,
Andreeson had created an enhanced browser called Netscape, and was
being backed by some deep pockets, including former Federal Express
COO Jim Barksdale.
A small company called SpyGlass, attempted to get permission to sell
"Branding rights" to Mosaic on behalf of the NCSA. Spyglass then
became the "shell" - selling Microsoft not only "branding rights" but
also derivative rights, the right to make any modifications they
wanted, without giving them back to the NCSA as required by the
original NCSA license. All of this for a paltry $2 million dollars,
roughly 1/10th of a percent of it's true value.
The NCSA covered it's tracks by unilaterally revising the license,
permitting the NCSA to assign any rights they wanted to to anyone they
wanted to, without paying royalties to any of the original authors or
contributors.
In retaliation, contributors stopped contributing upgrades to the NCSA
server and started releasing patches under a license similar to the
original NCSA license. All those patches were applied in source form,
and compiled in. This "a patchy" server was renamed Apache and a new
license to cover all the patches, the Artistic License was created,
assuring all contributors that their brainchildren wouldn't end up in
Microsoft's products and/or "shovelware".
In the last 15 years, the biggest contribution of Linux is the
increasing popularity of Open Source software, even running on
Windows. Cygwin, Java, Eclipse, FireFox, SeaMonkey, Thunderbird,
OpenOffice, all have found their way to hundreds of millions of PCs.
They may not have completely displaced Microsoft applications, but
they have created new standards for easily interchanged documents,
industry standard e-mail, and a standard for calanders that can be
shared.
> Or for that matter, what /all/ Intellectual
> Monopolists do to mankind's cumulative knowledge.
Microsoft demands the right to profit from it's innovaton, even if
that innovation is legal machinations used to aquire other's
innovations, paying little or nothing for it.
> > Even the kernel list has its insane trolls.
> Yes. I recall one of those insane trolls,
> incredibly, even went so far
> as to claim Tivoisation was a /good/ thing.
There are numerous "appliances" based on Linux and Unix now widely
used. In many homes, there are more *nix devices than Windows
devices. The cable modem, cable tuner, DVR, WiFi and/or router, and
even the HDTV set are all based on *nix. Even if a family of 4 has 4
Windows machines, the nix machines could still outnumber them. For
elderly couples, singles, and single parent families, the *nix
machines.
Even Windows machines often have *nix machines running inside. Many
applications are now shipped as VMs running under VMWare, VirtualBox,
or other desktop virtualization tools.
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