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Re: [Rival] Massive Vista 7 Bug (RTM) Could Delay Production?

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On Aug 6, 1:59 pm, Moshe Goldfarb <moshegoldf...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:55:15 GMT, Megabyte wrote:
Goblin wrote:
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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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Windows 7 RTM contains a rather nasty chkdsk bug
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| Windows 7 RTM, which will be distributed to MSDN/TechNet and technical
| beta testers tomorrow, contains a nasty memory leak when the chkdsk
| command is initiated.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAAA!!!!
You coudn't make this stuff up!
RTM? Surely it is RFD - Released For Distribution as it contains a lot
of GPL'd software that has been code washed?
The stuff that is non-GPL is included and are all the things that fail
like
chkdsk.
| Some are calling the bug a "show stopper", whilst others (Randall
| Kennedy) claim it could derail the Windows 7 launch. It's worth noting
| that Kennedy claimed in November 2008 that Microsoft had delayed the
| Windows 7 beta to early 2009, even though company officials always
| stated this was the case. In other words, take his words with a
pinch of
| salt.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/05
windows-7-rtm-contains-a-rather-nasty-chkdsk-bug
Having read about the bug, does it matter if Microsoft are able to fix
it without intteruption to the release?
I think the real damage is that IMO you have many users made suspicious
by Vista and with news like this (even if it turns out to be minor/non
existant) is the last thing Microsoft need to convince the world "it is
better this time"
I think if Windows 7 releases with similar news to Vista then it will be
the final nail in the coffin for the platform.
Maybe Microsoft should buy a few top spec PC's fully test them with
Vista 7 and then conduct another Mojave.....yep that will work....it did
with Vista..?!?!? that really convinced the public they had it all wrong.
I am not sure how this bug was detected....chkdsk gorging on large
amounts of ram?  Sounds like Windows is working as it should....;) I am
surprised anyone noticed.
One thing we can be thankful for, if this type of bug is going to be par
for the course for Windows 7 users, expect the price of ram to come down
to meet the demand....thats got to be good news for every user.
Of course a Linux Distro never gets released with a bug, does it?  Yep,
if Linux is released with another bug it will be doomed just like
Windows.  Funny thing is this Windows 7 bug was discovered over three
months before the public retail release, think it might be fixed with
the first update long before it hits retail shelves?
This grasping at straws seems pretty desperate.
All software has bugs.
Some are more serious than others and some have yet to be
discovered.
As long as humans are producing software, or hardware for that
matter, it will never be perfect.

I think Goblin's point about perception is a good one. Whether or not
Vista had any technical merits (personally I thought it was
worthless), is irrelevant because it is considered a failure. Any bug
or imperfection now may (and I stress may) cause people to be hesitant
about Windows 7 as well. Apple could get by with a similar bug in OS
X, since they've built up sort of this good faith with the public. I'm
not Roy Schestowitz claiming this is the end of Microsoft, but they
need good PR now as much as anything. Sure bugs like this will be
fixed before Windows 7 is ever released, but too many may cause people
to put off upgrading.

I think the same would be said about any firm who was coming off the back of a release like Vista (IMO).

I think it is made more difficult that finding an issue with Windows 7 would require you paying money, which further adds to the reluctance (IMO)

If a Linux distro was in the same position (in terms of perception) then it would not matter so much since a/ its not costing to find out and b/ there are many other distro's out there, which equally cost nothing to try.

I've said for a long time that IMO the biggest mistake of Microsoft was Vista. Can you imagine the hunger/demand for 7 if Vista had never been released.... I don't think Microsoft would find themselves with the public image problem they have now (IMO) and I think I would go as far as to say that since XP is accepted by many as pretty solid in terms of performance (especially on todays hardware) that we would not have seen so much of a desire or an interest in alternatives.

I think people who champion choice and diversity in OS's have alot to thank Vista for. For everyone else, its probably a topic best forgotten.(IMO)

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