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Re: [News] [Rival] Massive Vista 7 Bug (RTM) Could Delay Production?

Megabyte wrote:
Goblin wrote:
Megabyte wrote:
Goblin wrote:
7 wrote:
Roy Schestowitz wrote:

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Windows 7 RTM contains a rather nasty chkdsk bug

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| Windows 7 RTM, which will be distributed to MSDN/TechNet and technical
| beta testers tomorrow, contains a nasty memory leak when the chkdsk
| command is initiated.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAAA!!!!
You coudn't make this stuff up!

RTM? Surely it is RFD - Released For Distribution as it contains a lot
of GPL'd software that has been code washed?

The stuff that is non-GPL is included and are all the things that fail like
chkdsk.



| Some are calling the bug a "show stopper", whilst others (Randall
| Kennedy) claim it could derail the Windows 7 launch. It's worth noting | that Kennedy claimed in November 2008 that Microsoft had delayed the
| Windows 7 beta to early 2009, even though company officials always
| stated this was the case. In other words, take his words with a pinch of
| salt.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/05
windows-7-rtm-contains-a-rather-nasty-chkdsk-bug

Having read about the bug, does it matter if Microsoft are able to fix it without intteruption to the release?

I think the real damage is that IMO you have many users made suspicious by Vista and with news like this (even if it turns out to be minor/non existant) is the last thing Microsoft need to convince the world "it is better this time"

I think if Windows 7 releases with similar news to Vista then it will be the final nail in the coffin for the platform.

Maybe Microsoft should buy a few top spec PC's fully test them with Vista 7 and then conduct another Mojave.....yep that will work....it did with Vista..?!?!? that really convinced the public they had it all wrong.

I am not sure how this bug was detected....chkdsk gorging on large amounts of ram? Sounds like Windows is working as it should....;) I am surprised anyone noticed.

One thing we can be thankful for, if this type of bug is going to be par for the course for Windows 7 users, expect the price of ram to come down to meet the demand....thats got to be good news for every user.


Of course a Linux Distro never gets released with a bug, does it? Yep, if Linux is released with another bug it will be doomed just like Windows. Funny thing is this Windows 7 bug was discovered over three months before the public retail release, think it might be fixed with the first update long before it hits retail shelves?

This grasping at straws seems pretty desperate.

Never said it doesn't and I hope your ignorance of me being flippant is merely some clever posting technique of yours.

Of course there have been bugs released, difference being though, you are not having to dig deep into your wallet to find out with a Linux distro.


Just being flippant right back! ;-)

Referring to this bug as a show stopper, indicating it could derail the Windows 7 launch, referring to Windows 7 as Vista 7 and thinking that the typical user (Mom, Dad, Grandma, etc) will ever run chkdsk let alone with the switch in question before their system is updated (when you have the option to install updates at the time of installing Windows 7) is FUD and no different than the same stuff which the Trolls spread in attempting to convince others that Linux is crap. Advocates and Non-Advocates alike need to stop the FUD on both sides.

Vista suffered from it's poor system performance in part due to the fact that Intel, MS and OEMs allowed it to be sold on hardware that was not up to the task and by MS producing an OS that required such steep hardware requirements. However, Vista has improved as SPs were released and holds a higher market share on the desktop than OS X and Linux combined.

Also, considering the Windows 7 Beta and RC were\are public and the RC will work until March 2010, one can try Windows 7 without digging in to your wallet to find out. Those that have tested it that don't have a hate on for MS will tell you that performance in Windows 7 is as good as that in XP and that Windows 7 will run on XP ready hardware.








Quote "Just being flippant right back!"
Of course you were.  I don't know about anyone else, but Im convinced.

Back to reality however, I think you may have not read my post.....you are suggesting that I was "indicating it could derail the Windows 7 launch"

Take a deep breath and then go back and read what I actually put which was:

"Having read about the bug, does it matter if Microsoft are able to fix it without intteruption to the release? "

If you are able to read on you then you would read that I suggest that it was the news of a bug that could damage sales....I mention Vista as an example of IMO a skeptical public and suggest serious or not, showstopper or not, the mere news of a bug could be harmful.

Quote "(Mom, Dad, Grandma, etc) will ever run chkdsk let alone with the switch in question before their system is updated"

Where did I suggest that?

Quote "Advocates and Non-Advocates alike need to stop the FUD on both sides. "

Very true and as I've always said, misinformation is misinformation what ever the source. So wheres my FUD or misinformation then?

Quote "Vista has improved as SPs were released"

I wouldn't argue that its improved....but can you answer why it has such bad PR (IMO) ? even if you could it matters not, as I say a mere mention of a bug in 7 (regardless of how serious) could be a problem for it, since, rightly or wrongly Vista has a rather poor image.(IMO)

Quote "one can try Windows 7 without digging in to your wallet to find out."

I would argue that. Yes users could try it, however as we saw with various marketing techniques of Vista, can you honestly say the final product was what was expected? I certainly will be testing 7 but only as its complete off the shelf product. I cannot give my opinions properly until then, it simply would not be right.(IMO) I have

Performance wise, I think you will find the figures vary depending on what publications you read. A PC magazine (not Linux dedicated) stated that XP is still a better performer with games another has suggested otherwise. Some home users state that Windows 7 is the greatest thing ever, others have called it a #fail. This is the problem. Until the final product is on the shelves people will be skeptical and I think this goes for any product. Thats why I say news about bugs are bad news pre sale of Windows 7.

I am not quite sure why you have turned my comment about bug news into one of an advert for Windows 7, perhaps you are being flippant again?!?!?

Megabyte: Maybe you could answer a question with a clear answer that even MS employees were not able to do (IMO) on my blog:

What can Windows 7 offer a user that cannot be achieved either natively or via 3rd party software in XP? Furthermore, what are you doing in Windows 7 that I cannot do with Linux?

I would love to hear the answers to this. Many times we get a fancy rebadging that sounds like a definitive feature, that is until you find out its just another name for something we can already do. Ive written a feature on this before and highlighted that these fancy named "technologies" are already being used....and

If as you suggest Microsoft share some of the blame for Vista, shouldn't it be Microsoft to offer Vista users a free upgrade to 7? and also if you are correct then shouldn't people be even more suspicious of any "good" news about 7 when it hasn't even hit the shelves? afterall you have implied that Microsoft share some of the blame in Vista being sold on underspec'd hardware...

I would not seek to flame you with my question, I am honestly interested in knowing and if there is such a feature that makes Windows 7 worth the purchase, I will even mention it on my blog.

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