Megabyte wrote:
Goblin wrote:
Megabyte wrote:
Goblin wrote:
7 wrote:
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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Windows 7 RTM contains a rather nasty chkdsk bug
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| Windows 7 RTM, which will be distributed to MSDN/TechNet and
technical
| beta testers tomorrow, contains a nasty memory leak when the chkdsk
| command is initiated.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAAA!!!!
You coudn't make this stuff up!
RTM? Surely it is RFD - Released For Distribution as it contains a lot
of GPL'd software that has been code washed?
The stuff that is non-GPL is included and are all the things that
fail like
chkdsk.
| Some are calling the bug a "show stopper", whilst others (Randall
| Kennedy) claim it could derail the Windows 7 launch. It's worth
noting
| that Kennedy claimed in November 2008 that Microsoft had delayed
the
| Windows 7 beta to early 2009, even though company officials always
| stated this was the case. In other words, take his words with a
pinch of
| salt.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/05
windows-7-rtm-contains-a-rather-nasty-chkdsk-bug
Having read about the bug, does it matter if Microsoft are able to
fix it without intteruption to the release?
I think the real damage is that IMO you have many users made
suspicious by Vista and with news like this (even if it turns out to
be minor/non existant) is the last thing Microsoft need to convince
the world "it is better this time"
I think if Windows 7 releases with similar news to Vista then it
will be the final nail in the coffin for the platform.
Maybe Microsoft should buy a few top spec PC's fully test them with
Vista 7 and then conduct another Mojave.....yep that will work....it
did with Vista..?!?!? that really convinced the public they had it
all wrong.
I am not sure how this bug was detected....chkdsk gorging on large
amounts of ram? Sounds like Windows is working as it should....;) I
am surprised anyone noticed.
One thing we can be thankful for, if this type of bug is going to be
par for the course for Windows 7 users, expect the price of ram to
come down to meet the demand....thats got to be good news for every
user.
Of course a Linux Distro never gets released with a bug, does it?
Yep, if Linux is released with another bug it will be doomed just
like Windows. Funny thing is this Windows 7 bug was discovered over
three months before the public retail release, think it might be
fixed with the first update long before it hits retail shelves?
This grasping at straws seems pretty desperate.
Never said it doesn't and I hope your ignorance of me being flippant
is merely some clever posting technique of yours.
Of course there have been bugs released, difference being though, you
are not having to dig deep into your wallet to find out with a Linux
distro.
Just being flippant right back! ;-)
Referring to this bug as a show stopper, indicating it could derail the
Windows 7 launch, referring to Windows 7 as Vista 7 and thinking that
the typical user (Mom, Dad, Grandma, etc) will ever run chkdsk let alone
with the switch in question before their system is updated (when you
have the option to install updates at the time of installing Windows 7)
is FUD and no different than the same stuff which the Trolls spread in
attempting to convince others that Linux is crap. Advocates and
Non-Advocates alike need to stop the FUD on both sides.
Vista suffered from it's poor system performance in part due to the fact
that Intel, MS and OEMs allowed it to be sold on hardware that was not
up to the task and by MS producing an OS that required such steep
hardware requirements. However, Vista has improved as SPs were released
and holds a higher market share on the desktop than OS X and Linux
combined.
Also, considering the Windows 7 Beta and RC were\are public and the RC
will work until March 2010, one can try Windows 7 without digging in to
your wallet to find out. Those that have tested it that don't have a
hate on for MS will tell you that performance in Windows 7 is as good as
that in XP and that Windows 7 will run on XP ready hardware.
Quote "Just being flippant right back!"
Of course you were. I don't know about anyone else, but Im convinced.
Back to reality however, I think you may have not read my post.....you
are suggesting that I was "indicating it could derail the Windows 7 launch"
Take a deep breath and then go back and read what I actually put which was:
"Having read about the bug, does it matter if Microsoft are able to fix
it without intteruption to the release? "
If you are able to read on you then you would read that I suggest that
it was the news of a bug that could damage sales....I mention Vista as
an example of IMO a skeptical public and suggest serious or not,
showstopper or not, the mere news of a bug could be harmful.
Quote "(Mom, Dad, Grandma, etc) will ever run chkdsk let alone with the
switch in question before their system is updated"
Where did I suggest that?
Quote "Advocates and Non-Advocates alike need to stop the FUD on both
sides. "
Very true and as I've always said, misinformation is misinformation what
ever the source. So wheres my FUD or misinformation then?
Quote "Vista has improved as SPs were released"
I wouldn't argue that its improved....but can you answer why it has such
bad PR (IMO) ? even if you could it matters not, as I say a mere
mention of a bug in 7 (regardless of how serious) could be a problem for
it, since, rightly or wrongly Vista has a rather poor image.(IMO)
Quote "one can try Windows 7 without digging in to your wallet to find out."
I would argue that. Yes users could try it, however as we saw with
various marketing techniques of Vista, can you honestly say the final
product was what was expected? I certainly will be testing 7 but only
as its complete off the shelf product. I cannot give my opinions
properly until then, it simply would not be right.(IMO) I have
Performance wise, I think you will find the figures vary depending on
what publications you read. A PC magazine (not Linux dedicated) stated
that XP is still a better performer with games another has suggested
otherwise. Some home users state that Windows 7 is the greatest thing
ever, others have called it a #fail. This is the problem. Until the
final product is on the shelves people will be skeptical and I think
this goes for any product. Thats why I say news about bugs are bad news
pre sale of Windows 7.
I am not quite sure why you have turned my comment about bug news into
one of an advert for Windows 7, perhaps you are being flippant again?!?!?
Megabyte: Maybe you could answer a question with a clear answer that
even MS employees were not able to do (IMO) on my blog:
What can Windows 7 offer a user that cannot be achieved either natively
or via 3rd party software in XP? Furthermore, what are you doing in
Windows 7 that I cannot do with Linux?
I would love to hear the answers to this. Many times we get a fancy
rebadging that sounds like a definitive feature, that is until you find
out its just another name for something we can already do. Ive written
a feature on this before and highlighted that these fancy named
"technologies" are already being used....and
If as you suggest Microsoft share some of the blame for Vista, shouldn't
it be Microsoft to offer Vista users a free upgrade to 7? and also if
you are correct then shouldn't people be even more suspicious of any
"good" news about 7 when it hasn't even hit the shelves? afterall you
have implied that Microsoft share some of the blame in Vista being sold
on underspec'd hardware...
I would not seek to flame you with my question, I am honestly interested
in knowing and if there is such a feature that makes Windows 7 worth the
purchase, I will even mention it on my blog.
--
Goblin
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a year whether I need it or not."
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