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[News] gNewSense Tosses Mono to the Bitbucket

  • Subject: [News] gNewSense Tosses Mono to the Bitbucket
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:33:13 +0100
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gNewSense 2.3-deltah

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| gNewsenseâs strongest point is that when you 
| install it you are running completely free 
| software.  It was very nice to see that Mono 
| and subsequently f-spot, tomboy et al are 
| absent from this distro.


Miguel snuggles closer to Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| De Icaza himself has no qualms about pointing 
| out that he was kicked off the board of the FSF 
| for "refusing to be an active part" in what he 
| says was a campaign to rename Linux as 
| GNU/Linux. This sits somewhat at variance with 
| the glowing descrption of him as an open source 
| advocate but never mind.
| [...]
| The CodePlex Foundation is a commercial entity. 
| The board, set up under the non-profit rules of 
| Washington State, has complete control over the 
| foundation and is also self-perpetuating, 
| according to a detailed analysis by Andy 
| Updegrove.
| The motives of the foundation are pretty clear: 
| to enable "the exchange of code and 
| understanding among software companies and open 
| source communities."


Who Will Fill Sam Ramji's Role as Microsoft's Open Source Leader?

,----[ Quote ]
| Obviously, Microsoft likely is already working 
| on internal lists of desired candidates to take 
| Ramji's position, but at least one name has 
| already popped up online inside the open source 
| community.



The H Gives Mono a Health Check

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| Next, it reinforces the point that Mr. de Icaza was totally serious back when
| he said that âGnome 4.0 should be based on .NETâ â thatâs exactly what he
| thought then, and exactly what he thinks now. Itâs dressed up a bit in
| pseudo-technical rhetoric, but the underlying desire is the same.


Health Check: Mono - Too much monkey business?

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| This stance has been countered to some degree by Microsoft's Community
| Promise, but doubts remain as to what is actually covered, and de Icaza
| concedes as much. "In the next few months," he wrote, "we will be working
| towards splitting the jumbo Mono source code that includes ECMA + A lot more
| into two separate source code distributions. One will be ECMA, the other will
| contain our implementation of ASP.NET, ADO.NET, Winforms and others." In
| theory, the core components of Mono and the Mono development stack for Gnome
| are covered by the Community Promise. The elements that provide compatibility
| with Windows are not.
| From the beginning Mono has been beset by misunderstandings, misconceptions
| and political ineptitude, not least by Novell, de Icaza's employer, which
| allowed Microsoft to insert patent indemnification into its commercial
| agreement of 2006, souring its relationship with the free software community
| and giving Microsoft grounds for suggesting, without substantiation, that
| GNU/Linux and other free software infringed Microsoft patents - and by
| Microsoft's ongoing ambivalence towards free and open source software within
| its own halls.


Pro-mono Zealotry

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| What this does illustrate, I think, is something that is already obvious to
| anyone that has been following the Mono controversy: there are people that
| are just as âextremeâ and unwilling to listen to reason as the most zealoty
| charactertures painted by the Broad Brush of the Most High and (Self)
| Righteous Community Gatekeepers.
| You can spot these people by the mindless regurgitation of other peopleâs
| talking points and the inability to make even the slightest concession to any
| opposing argument; the gleeful participation in any manner of attack or
| disinformation; the uncritical embrace of  anyone or anything that supports
| thier position. A sure sign is charging the opposition with the very crimes
| they themselves are in the act of commiting.

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