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[News] Economist and Associated Press Decide to Die Sooner

  • Subject: [News] Economist and Associated Press Decide to Die Sooner
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:08:37 +0100
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Economist introduces pay-wall for archive articles

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| The Times and Sunday Times yesterday revealed plans for a 
| readers' club with a Â50 membership fee to non-
| subscribers, another example of newspapers attempting to 
| develop new revenue streams from loyal readers rather 
| than following a high-volume strategy.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/06/economist-pay-wall-archive

Monetizing Speed: AP May Charge for 30 Min Lead

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| After a summer of establishing blogger guidelines and 
| fair use, the Associated Press is considering charging 
| online customers for a 20-30 minute head start on 
| breaking news stories. According to a report by the AP's 
| Jeremiah Marquez, the AP's chief executive Tom Curley 
| made the announcement at the Hong Kong Foreign 
| Correspondents' Club. Curley suggested that because the 
| AP licenses stories to major hubs like Google, Yahoo and 
| Microsoft's MSN, these outlets would be willing to pay 
| for scoops.
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http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/monetizing_speed_ap_may_charge_for_30_min_lead.php


Recent:

Associated Press will sell you a license to quote the public domain

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| They tell me I have to use the sentence "exactly as written" and heaven help
| me if I don't include the complete footer with their copyright boilerplate.
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http://www.boingboing.net/2009/08/02/associated-press-wil-1.html


Ripped Off News? Or Spreading The News?

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| It appears that some (certainly not all) in the mainstream press still seems
| to have problems understanding the value of getting people to talk about what
| they reported on. They seem to come at this viewpoint from the old line of
| thinking that a reporter reported on the story and that was it. The story was
| done. But that's not the way the news works. A news story is simply a part of
| the conversation. It may be a starting point in a bigger effort -- which is
| why it's important for so many people today to be able to spread and share
| the news with others. Yet, if you come at things from a viewpoint of the
| newspaper article being a final and definitive word, then suddenly such
| sharing and spreading is viewed as "theft" or being "ripped off" and the
| person promoting and discussing and sharing your work is suddenly a parasite.
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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090802/1528325739.shtml


AP Charges $12.50 To Quote 5 Words

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| The AP is known for having some fairly unconventional tactics toward the use
| of their content online. Sure, a company should be concerned with how their
| content is being used online... but how far is too far?
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http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/08/03/ap-charges-1250-to-quote-5-words


AP Launches Open Source Ascribenation Project

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| Meanwhile, a small suggestion to the AP: Get your legal department's
| footprints off your home page (where the top item is "Protecting AP's
| Intellectual Property"). In fact, push them to the nether regions of the
| website. It's not friendly stuff.
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http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ap-launches-open-source-ascribenation-project


By The AP's Own Logic, The AP Ripped Off Obama

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| I must admit that I tend to disagree with a significant percentage of
| Lichtman's conclusions on intellectual property, but unlike many copyright
| maximalists, I tend to believe he's much more intellectually honest on these
| issues. His positions don't seem to come from a "more is absolutely better
| because it makes me/my clients more money" position, but he honestly tends to
| believe that greater copyright leads to a greater net outcome, and tends to
| argue reasonably about it -- though, I believe some of that reasoning, and
| the assumptions that underpin it are faulty.
|
| [...]
|
| No, what's not fair is claiming that any of that is the AP's to own. None of
| it. Not a single part of it was. All of that -- the hope, the way he was
| looking, was simply there. What made him choose it was the look on Obama's
| face -- which is not Garcia's creative output, and thus cannot be covered by
| copyright. In fact, the most frustrating thing of all is that Cendali
| repeatedly claims that Fairey was ripping off Garcia (and the AP), but misses
| the obvious problem with that argument: which is that if her argument is
| correct, then the AP and Garcia also ripped off Obama, since it was his
| creativity in looking the way he did and making the facial expression he did.
| Once again, such externalities are apparently only acceptable when the AP
| benefits. But, Cendali seems to ignore that, and Lichtman lets her get off,
| noting that he basically agrees with her.
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http://techdirt.com/articles/20090721/1828265616.shtml


Is The BBC An AP Parasite?

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| Anyway, not long after that, I saw that the BBC appears to have a very
| similar article, and it's quite clear that all they did was rewrite the AP's
| article. At one point, they do credit the AP, but the article is almost a
| direct paraphrase of the AP's. So does the AP start calling the BBC a
| parasite, too? Or does it finally realize that no one owns the news, and lots
| of publications often rewrite the news and have for ages?
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http://techdirt.com/articles/20090722/0126305618.shtml


Industry study claims strong copyrights fuel economic engine

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| A report released by the International Intellectual Property Alliance shows
| that copyright-related industry has been booming in recent years. But a
| closer examination of the data shows that the numbers don't add up so easily.
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/industry-study-claims-strong-copyrights-fuel-economic-engine.ars
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