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[News] [Rival] ISO Challenged to Withdraw Microsoft OOXML After Well-documented Microsoft Crime and Deception

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] ISO Challenged to Withdraw Microsoft OOXML After Well-documented Microsoft Crime and Deception
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:21:59 +0100
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OpenXML: Who fooled who ?

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| They also defined the coordinator of the BRM, 
| Alex Brown (who also played a crucial role in 
| the outcome of OpenXML, but thatâs subject for 
| another post, because I didnât revealed yet all 
| I saw in Geneva), and he publishes on his blog a 
| FAQ with the rules of the BRM. This FAQ also 
| circulated as an official ISO document, and can 
| be found here.
| Look what is written in this document:
|     4.1 Will IPR issues be discussed at the BRM?
|     No. IPR issues in this process are the 
|     exclusive preserve of the ITTF. IPR 
|     decisions have previously been delegated by 
|     all the ISO and IEC members (NBs) to the 
|     CEOs of IEC and ISO, and they in turn have 
|     examined them and found no outstanding 
|     problems. NBs seeking reassurance in such 
|     matters must pursue them through other 
|     avenues than the BRM.
| In other words, the CEOs of ISO and IEC (the 
| highest authorities of the two entities) had 
| assessed the intellectual property issues on 
| OpenXML and found nothing, so no committee 
| around the world have to worry about the issueâ 
| I remember that Iâve asked about it few times, 
| and the answer was always the same: âKid, you 
| are doubting the CEOs of ISO and IEC ?ââ but 
| what about the i4i litigation ?
| [...]
| Most of the ECMA delegates I know are Microsoft 
| employees or business partners of the company. 
| This staff can be anything but âuninformedâ and 
| therefore I canât believe that ECMA didnât know 
| the litigation too.
| So, I change the question asked by Groklaw 
| almost two months ago for a more direct one: Who 
| fooled who?
| We all know that all NBs was fooled, that the 
| countries have seen their names used in an 
| unscrupulous way and that all delegates and 
| competent technicians has been fooled too.
| I really hope to hear something from the cited 
| parties cited, and I believe that all 
| International Society expect the same. We no 
| longer live in a world where a nonsense fact 
| like this can be accepted, and Iâll not stop 
| until I find an answer (and I know Iâm not alone 
| in this quest).
| I also would like to know from the ISO/IEC what 
| they have to say about all this. They knew the 
| i4i litigation ?
| To finalize, I appeal again to CEOs of ISO and 
| IEC: The G-20 is a reality, and itâs never too 
| late to correct an injustice !


#  zoobab
October 14th, 2009 - 3:56 pm

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| ISO should pull down the ISO29500 immediately.
| No one can implement this specification safely.
| ISO29500 should be withdrawn âNowâ.


"The first rule of the #OOXML club? Don't talk about the legal problems!"


Municipal of Aarhus post a complaint to DS

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| The city of Aarhus has posted an official complaint to Danish Standards
| regarding the result of the Danish YES-vote.
| The complaint is regarding the fact that *all* non-profit votes in Denmark
| asked for a NO. Only commercial pro-Microsoft participants voted YES.


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| Vincent Henry
| Freedom of Information Liaison Officer
| National Standards Authority of Ireland
| [...]
| Dear Mr Henry,
| I am writing to make a request under the Freedom of Information Act.
| I would like to request the following information from the NSAI, relating to
| the NSAIâs work
| on ISOâs as-was draft standard DIS29500 (Information Technology â Office Open
| XML file
| formats).
|    â Minutes of all meetings of committees, sub-committees, working groups or
|    similar where
|      ISOâs as-was DIS29500 was discussed.
|    â Dates of all such meetings.
| [...]


Martin Bryan: we are getting âstandardization by corporationâ

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| A November informative report of Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34
| WG1 highlights the fallout of the ECMA-376 fast-track process for ISO. He
| says he is 'glad to be retiring before the situation becomes impossible'
| [...]
| In what is an astonishingly outspoken report, Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 has given us insight into the total mess that Microsoft/ECMA
| have caused during their scandalous, underhand and unremitting attempts to
| get - what is a very poorly written specification {i.e. DIS 29500 aka OOXML,
| AR} - approved as an ISO standard. â


Dysfunctional ISO - Courtesy of Microsoft


Microsoft accused of stacking ISO committee

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| In a memo sent following his last meeting as head of the working group on
| WG1, which is handling Microsoftâs application to make the Word format an ISO
| standard as ECMA 376, outgoing Governor Martin Bryan (above), an expert on
| SGML and XML, accused the company of stacking his group.


EU Commission Investigating Microsoft's MSOOXML Push

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| I hope they think to investigate the smear campaigns that seem to always
| happen to anyone on the other side from Microsoft. What happened to Peter
| Quinn was by no means unique.


An Open Letter to LITD15 committee of BIS

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| On 20th March 2008, the LITD15 committee of the Bureau of Indian Standards 
| voted against Microsoft's proposed OOXML standard. 29th March 2008 was the 
| last date for participating countries to vote on OOXML. In the interval 
| between these two dates, Microsoft went to the Prime Minister of India and 
| alleged that this committee acted against the national interest. Fortunately, 
| the Indian bureaucrats who met the PM did a good job of defending the 
| committee's vote against OOXML.      
| Prof. DB Phatak of IIT Bombay recently wrote a mail to the LITD15 committee 
| saying that, "In my opinion, these actions go well beyond the behavioral 
| boundaries for a commercial entity, some of these amounting to interfering 
| with the governance process of a sovereign country." IIT Bombay was a member 
| of the LITD15 committee and Prof. Phatak was part of a four-member team at 
| IIT Bombay that did a very intense review of OOXML before the institute voted 
| against OOXML. While Prof. Phatak is a great supporter of open source, he 
| also has a great reputation for being fair and balanced.       
| [...]
| As a committee member, I would like to place on record my deep disappointment 
| at the fact that Microsoft chose to question the decision of this committee 
| at the highest office of our country. For over a year, we have reviewed the 
| proposed standard with a fine tooth comb. Every opportunity was given to 
| Microsoft to put their points across. At every meeting they brought a 
| disproportionate number of participants along; some of these participants 
| were not even Indian nationals. I think the committee as a whole was very 
| courteous in accommodating all this but drew the line when this began to 
| detract from the functioning of the committee. The only words that came to my 
| mind when I heard that Microsoft's complaint had prompted the Prime Minister 
| of my country to review this committee's decision was "stabbed-in-the-back." 
| This was a great disservice to this committee and the country and I hope this 
| never happens again.            
| [...]
| Standards cannot (and should not) be created in a technical vaccum. Without a 
| moral and ethical framework, we cannot create standards that benefit 
| humanity. Mahatma Gandhi summed it up best when he said that, âReal swaraj 
| will come not by the acquisition of authority by a few but by the acquisition 
| of capacity by all.â I believe that this committee should be focused solely 
| on the user's swaraj (freedom) to encode and decode their data.     


Microsoft influencing partner NGOs to support OOXML in India

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| Microsoft is encouraging its business partners to promote its Office Open XML 
| specification (OOXML) to the Indian Bureau of Standards (BIS) and Ministry of 
| IT. This move has incensed supporters of the rival OpenDocument Format (ODF) 
| who fear that the "soft" Indian state may not be able to stand up to 
| Microsoft pressure tactics.    


New OOXML Scandal - A Leaked Email Surfaces in France - Updated: New Details
from Norway

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| Le Monde Informatique and LeMagIT are reporting on a leaked email from Marc 
| Meyer of the French government agency, DGME, which urges that OOXML be 
| quickly added to the official list of formats that can be used by government 
| entities, a document titled RGI, and then the finalized v1.0 of RGI be 
| quickly published, in effect locking in OOXML, before the appeals process is 
| completed. The email and the media reports indicate that the RGI was put on a 
| back burner last October, when ODF was already on the list, and now, 
| immediately after OOXML is approved, albeit controversially, by ISO but 
| before the appeals process is complete, not to mention the format, Meyer 
| urges it quickly be added to the list of acceptable formats, hence making it 
| hard to remove OOXML from the list later, as a fait accompli.          
| Worse, the email indicates that work on the document was brought to a crawl 
| to wait for ISO approval of OOXML. ODF was already on the list when work on 
| RGI was brought to a standstill last October. There were suspicions that the 
| slowdown was deliberate, and the email is giving legs to those suspicions.   
| It seems that politics has reared its ugly head, and just as happened in 
| Masschusetts, questions are now being asked about behind-the-scenes Microsoft 
| pressure.   


Sarkozy intervenes in France to revert the OOXML position

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| Confidential sources say that President Sarkozy has intervened himself in the 
| French position on Microsoft OOXML, asking members of the committee to revert 
| their position, and support an abstention. Our sources say he was approached 
| by a lobbyist during his 3-days trip in England. The intervention has been 
| made on Friday.    


The France Shift From No to Abstain -- HP helped Microsoft France do it

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| Here's the scoop from Les Echos.fr on France's sudden change from its No vote 
| to Abstain. Microsoft France's President Eric Boustouller sent AFNOR a  
| letter [PDF] in French, of course. He tells a tale about OOXML and ODF 
| progressing side by side and how if OOXML is approved, a group will be 
| working hard to make the two more interoperable. Attached was a an HP 
| statement of support for OOXML. HP sings the same song. And AFNOR?     
| [...]
| Could it be any more cynical? So, now we know that HP is not supportive of 
| Linux and FOSS as we thought. Knock me over with a feather. So, they got them 
| to change on the basis of promises for the future. I'm sure there's more to 
| the story, of course.   


Can AFNOR really change the OOXML vote to "abstain"?

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| Having participated within the responsible technical committee of the Swiss 
| Association for Standardization and considering the decision-making process 
| that has been used to be unsatisfactory, I find it interesting to look at how 
| things have been handled in other countries, in order to see what can be 
| learned from that. I plan to focus my attention in this regard on countries 
| where the primary language is German, English or French, so that I will be 
| able to understand any relevant documents which might become available to the 
| public or personally to me.       


Microsoft's ISO win may worsen its antitrust woes

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| Microsoft may have won a year-long quest to make its OOXML (Office Open XML) 
| document format an ISO-recognized international standard, but claims of foul 
| play in the voting process may come back to haunt the software giant when the 
| European Commission concludes its latest antitrust investigation of 
| Microsoft's business practices.    


France: "Non, avec des commentaires!"

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| Apparently, the French discussion on OOXML broke into something resembling a 
| bar-fight. 
| [...]
| Matters soon got out of hand: the shouting seems to have climaxed with the 
| Microsoft representative insulting the management of AFNOR, members of the 
| Defense Ministry, the Justice Ministry, the Interior Ministry, and two 
| members from the Industrial Ministry exclaiming that they were servants of a 
| banana republic!    

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