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[News] [Rival] Novell's Banshee Trojan Horse (Only 'Safe' for Novell Customers) Mischaracterised

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Novell's Banshee Trojan Horse (Only 'Safe' for Novell Customers) Mischaracterised
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:32:46 +0100
  • Followup-to: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Banshee a GNOME project?

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| Interesting bit of spin out of Team Mono 
| today.
| 
| Itâs not what you think, baby.
| 
| In a numbers-heavy blog post, Bertrand 
| Loretz tries to make the argument that 
| âBanshee is a GNOME Projectâ  and not a 
| âNovell projectâ. While I understand why one 
| might want to distance themselves from 
| Novell, youâre going to have a rough time 
| trying that with Banshee.
| 
| For starters Novell owns the Banshee name, 
| logo and icon. One might think that pretty 
| much seals the deal?
| 
| Another point of interest is that âone of 
| the purposes building Banshee was to 
| showcase building an application on Mono.â
| 
| Thereâs also this bit right there on the 
| Banshee âAboutâ Page:
| 
|     Novell employs Aaron and Gabriel Burt to 
|     work on Banshee.
| 
| So, just going by Mr. Loretzâs own numbers, 
| at least 70.4% of the code contributions 
| came from the 2 developers Novell is paying 
| to work on Banshee.
| 
| So, Novell owns the project name and 
| likeness, and pays for the overwhelming 
| majority of the actual code, but itâs not
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http://mono-nono.com/2009/10/22/banshee-a-gnome-project/


Recent:

Banshee UI to be in Moonlight

,----[ Quote ]
| Yes. Thatâs right. According to the GCDS 2009 presentation notes on the
| Banshee site, we learn lots of nice stuff about Banshee:
|
| âItâs not just an app, itâs a platformâ.
|
|     * Long term goal is to write the UI in Moonlight
|           o Declarative UI, canvas, scene graph, and toolkit
|           o Moonlight is an Open Source implementation of Microsoftâs
|           Silverlight technology â and it is awesome
|
| âBanshee is going to do photosâ
|
| âWe are re-basing the F-Spot core on top of Bansheeâ
|
| And it ends with GNOME, Mono and Banshee logos.
|
| Moonlight is of course, absolutely toxic unless you get it directly from
| Novell, as the so-called âcovenantâ specifically prohibits non-Novell
| distributions from distributing Moonlight
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http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/14/banshee-ui-to-be-in-moonlight/


Banshee not good enough; Gomer Pyle reacts

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| It seems we are settling on the âbest-of-breedâ as the ultimate
| justification. This is a good stop if you are on Team Mono, because you can
| call any application the âbest-of-breedâ so long as you are the one that gets
| to decide what factors make it the âbest-of-breedâ.
|
| I always chuckle around #4; Team Mono is forever chanting âpragmatismâ and
| how âthe user doesnât care about freedom or principlesâ.  Yet itâs quite
| clear that the overwhelming majority of users do not want Banshee. So, do the
| users matter or not? It seems to me that how much they matter is in direct
| proportion to how much they support you on any specific issue.
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http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/14/banshee-not-good-enough-gomer-pyle-reacts/


Disinformation Disinfected, pt. 3: Banshee in Ubuntu

,----[ Quote ]
| Here, letâs take a look at one of the main things that getâs me going about
| mono-supporters.
|
| There is a strong push to get Banshee in as the default media player in
| Ubuntu. Hereâs my take on that.
|
| The first lie: Banshee saves space.
|
| As near as I can tell, the whole thing really got going from an
| apebox.org ârantâ back around April. In this [cough]fact-filled[/cough] post,
| the assertion is made that 6.1 MiB will be saved on the LiveCD by
| replacing âbloated C-basedâ Rhythmbox with Banshee.
|
| This, like most pro-mono propaganda is about 25% truth/ 75% lie. You see, it
| doesnât count the accompanying documentation of Rhythmbox. The apebox.org
| ranter casually cedes the point on page 4 or so of this thread, pretending
| all the while like space was ânever really my main argument.â
|
| [...]
|
| Itâs my opinion that despite protestations of âoh, Iâm just looking out for
| the best applicationâ, it is clear the initial thrust of getting Banshee into
| Ubuntu as the default media player was based on the pro-mono agenda of simply
| pushing mono apps.
|
| Let me be clear on my position: if people want to use mono apps, well then,
| drop it in the repos and drive on Power Ranger. It is the constant âshove it
| down their throatsâ of the pro-mono brigade which offends me the most.
|
| Mindshare is very important; it is why all that shovelware pays to have their
| crappy applications on the WinXP OEM desktop. It is a major âwinâ for mono to
| be included by default, because then mono-supporters can simply point to some
| existing application and say âwell, that mono app is already in, so why not
| this one?â
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http://meandubuntu.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/disinformation-disinfected-pt-3-banshee-in-ubuntu/
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