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[News] Convicted Criminal Microsoft Corp. Keeps Corrupting ISO Integrity for MSOOXML

  • Subject: [News] Convicted Criminal Microsoft Corp. Keeps Corrupting ISO Integrity for MSOOXML
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:36:03 +0000
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The Final OOXML Update: Part III

,----[ Quote ]
| However, in other cases (in fact most of the 
| cases), the Microsoft-dominated WG4 appears 
| to have overstepped the permissible bounds 
| for corrigenda, and indeed gone far, far 
| beyond what it stated it would be doing in 
| corrigenda. Let's look at a few examples.
| 
| (Sadly, the general public is not given 
| access to the text of the draft corrigenda 
| (the DCOR) but those on the inside can 
| follow along by reading N 1252 in the SC34 
| document repository.)
| 
| [...]
| 
| I invite you to go back to the defect log 
| [PDF] and search for "BRM". You will find 
| several oddities. For example, among these 
| proposed changes are some that actually 
| reverse BRM decisions. Yes, you heard me 
| correctly. SC34/WG4, the Microsoft-dominated 
| committee that maintains OOXML, is undoing 
| various BRM decisions that enabled OOXML to 
| be approved in the first place. Why? Well, 
| of course, to make the standard conform more 
| to Microsoft Office.
| 
| [...]
| 
| So although Microsoft Office does not 
| conform to ISO/IEC 29500 today, I have no 
| doubt that within a few months it will fully 
| conform. But not a single line of code will 
| have changed in the Office product. Office 
| 2007 will be retroactively made to conform 
| to ISO/IEC 29500. What will happen is the 
| standard will be modified to match that 
| single vendor's products, by misapplication 
| of an ISO procedure intended for fixing 
| minor drafting errors.
| 
| So why go through all this trouble? I 
| believe this is all about getting the OOXML 
| standard "corrected" so Microsoft can push 
| for it to get it officially adopted around 
| the world. The only reason they've held back 
| so far is because MS Office does not 
| actually implement ISO/IEC 29500 today. So 
| it would have been counter productive for 
| them to push for official adoption. However, 
| once this oversight is remedied, by changing 
| the standard to match their product, then 
| watch out.
| 
| [...]
| 
| So Microsoft is now off extending OOXML, and 
| this whole ISO escapade with OOXML seems for 
| naught. (I hear also that Microsoft is also 
| backing off the submission of their 
| Extensible Page Specification (XPS) to ISO 
| as well, saying that "an Ecma Standard is 
| good enough".) It appears that Microsoft got 
| what they wanted from ISO and is moving on. 
| Who said it would last more than a night? As 
| my grandmother used to say, "Why buy the cow 
| when you can get the milk for free?"
| 
| [...]
| 
| The pattern is clear: OOXML will be extended 
| by Microsoft much faster than it will be 
| standardized and corrected by ISO. This will 
| make the ISO version of OOXML, currently not 
| supported by Microsoft, even more irrelevant 
| in the future.
`----

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/10/final-ooxml-update-part-iii.html

Rob Weir's OOXML Update, Part III - Making OOXML Conform to Office 2007

,----[ Quote ]
| Rob Weir has an eye-opening report on how 
| the Microsoft-stuffed committee implementing 
| fixes to OOXML is extending the "standard", 
| which turns out to be not exactly standard, 
| to better conform to Microsoft Office 2007, 
| and without following usual procedures. That 
| is utterly backwards. Normally, vendors work 
| to make their products conform to the 
| standard, and it's very unusual for a 
| "standard" to be made to conform to one 
| vendor's proprietary product. I want to 
| reproduce the article here, because it is an 
| object lesson, a timely one.
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009102810072196


Recent:

ISO will meet in Redmond, dinner paid by Microsoft

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-174347/iso-will-meet-in-redmond-dinner-paid-by-microsoft


800 pages of defect for OOXML, here it is

,----[ Quote ]
| 800 pages of defect for OOXML, here it is. ISO is such a transparent
| organisation that they are afraid of the web, and the public light of the
| blogosphere. Here is the leak for you.
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-174349/800-pages-of-defect-for-ooxml-here-it-is


Microsoft, OOXML and the ISO

,----[ Quote ]
| Taken individually, these dubious actions might be dismissed by Microsoft
| as âminor lapsesâ, âmisunderstandingsâ or actions of an atypical ârogueâ
| manager â as was done in Sweden, where an offer was made to support partners
| financially if they attended the key meeting of the national body and voted
| in favour of OOXML. But taken together they suggest a consistent philosophy
| of being prepared to use whatever means necessary in order to gain the
| required number of votes.
|
| Since there are very few laws relevant to this field, I doubt whether
| Microsoft has broken any with its actions during the ISO standardisation
| process, either through those already disclosed, or others that may come come
| to light (although the European Commission may have its own views on this).
| But as well as the letter of the law, the spirit matters too, and I would be
| interested to hear to what extent, against a background of skewed committees,
| misrepresentations and overt pressure, Microsoft thinks it adhered to the
| spirit of the collegial, consensus-based standards-making process in finally
| obtaining that much-coveted âwinâ for OOXML.
`----

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/microsoft-ooxml-and-iso


Related:

Microsoft, OOXML and the ISO

,----[ Quote ]
| Taken individually, these dubious actions might be dismissed by Microsoft
| as âminor lapsesâ, âmisunderstandingsâ or actions of an atypical ârogueâ
| manager â as was done in Sweden, where an offer was made to support partners
| financially if they attended the key meeting of the national body and voted
| in favour of OOXML. But taken together they suggest a consistent philosophy
| of being prepared to use whatever means necessary in order to gain the
| required number of votes.
|
| Since there are very few laws relevant to this field, I doubt whether
| Microsoft has broken any with its actions during the ISO standardisation
| process, either through those already disclosed, or others that may come come
| to light (although the European Commission may have its own views on this).
| But as well as the letter of the law, the spirit matters too, and I would be
| interested to hear to what extent, against a background of skewed committees,
| misrepresentations and overt pressure, Microsoft thinks it adhered to the
| spirit of the collegial, consensus-based standards-making process in finally
| obtaining that much-coveted âwinâ for OOXML.
`----

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/microsoft-ooxml-and-iso
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