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Re: [News] Another Review of Linux Mint 8 (Helena)

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____/ Terry Porter on Thursday 24 Dec 2009 01:33 : \____

> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:57:20 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> 
> 
>>>> I've personally had no problem with any distro and all my hardware
>>>> always works out of the box.
>>> 
>>> The old Ubuntu 9.10 install had a separate /home, /boot and root
>>> partition, so I just told the Mint8 installer to re use /boot and root,
>>> and format them, and reuse /home, but not to reformat.
>>> 
>>> Install took about 30 minutes, with the only input from me being my
>>> hostname, username/password, click on the world map for my timezone and
>>> the above partitioning selection.
>>> 
>>> The rest was automatic and everything worked on reboot. All my /home
>>> stuff is there, all the configs are there.
>>> 
>>> All I had to do was install the usual suspects such as Sylpheed,
>>> FwBuilder, Glade etc.
>>> 
>>> Too easy.
>> 
>> In Windows you would have to do them one by one, maybe with reboots in
>> between. You would also need to download them separately and risk
>> malware downloads.
>> 
>>> The same method would have worked fine with Fedora or any other Linux
>>> distro.
>> 
>> Of course. :-)
>> 
>> I can't seem to find a distro that /doesn't/ work for me, but maybe I
>> just don't buy Linux-hostile hardware.
>> 
> 
> I've been using Linux since 1993 (but didn't go full time to Linux until
> August 1997) and I have installed Linux on probably over 50 different
> machines, and I have *never* had a problem with hardware that wasn't
> cured with a different driver or a different card, and this so
> infrequently I think the last one was Trident video card in 1993!
> 
> 
> In any event, it's all very moot, because many Linux distros are LIVE
> cd's or LIVE USB keys and people can download the distro for Free, and
> try it on their machine to make sure everything works before
> installing ... so the risk is ZERO.
> 
> Examples of Distros with live cds are Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Sidux, Slax
> etc
> 
> Of course the trolls have no idea that one can do this as they have never
> tried Linux and can barely run their pirated copies of Windows anyway.
> 
> Most of them are barely computer literate as evidenced by their posts
> here over the years.
> 
> 
> I know that Microsoft now have a method to create  a USB key based
> Vista7, but of course they had to use GPL'd Free software to do it.
> 
> begin{quote}
> There was a bit of a furore over Microsoft's 'Windows 7 Netbook
> Installation tool' back in November because they broke the cardinal rule
> this decade of software development: they used open-source code and
> didn't declare it. Even worse, they modified open-source code and locked
> it up in proprietary, closed-source software. FOR SHAME!
> 
> But it's OK: it was just a mistake, an honest mistake. They didn't mean
> to include the open-source code fragments. So they pulled the software
> from their site and said it would be back in a little while, properly
> documented, and open-sourced. Well, it's been a month and it's finally
> back! It's also now hosted on CodePlex, Microsoft's open-source
> repository -- cool.
> 
> If you weren't aware such a tool existed, it creates bootable USB sticks
> from .ISO (CD or DVD) images, ideal for installing Windows 7 on a netbook
> or any other device without an optical drive. If you need more info -
> perhaps if you want to rejuvenate a tired old netbook for a grandparent
> this Christmas - we've written about installing Windows 7 via USB before.
> end{quote}
> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/10/the-windows-7-usb-installer-tool-
> is-back-and-open-source?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_downloadsquad
> 
> 
> 
> Naturally no windows users can actually perform this highly complex
> operation as it involves the dreaded DOS Command Line, and even after
> purchasing Vista7 for $$$$, the end product is not even a LIVE OS, so you
> can't try it first to see if it's compatible with your hardware! :-
> 
> begin{quote}
> How To Install Windows 7 From A USB Drive
> 
>    1. Find a standard 4GB USB Drive and plug it into your machine
>    2. Click Start in your enter âcmdâ in the run field. Once cmd is open
> type in âdiskpartâ and a new window will open
>    3. In the new diskpart window type:
> 
>     * âlist diskâ : This lists all the disk drives attached to your
> machine
>     * Look for your USB drive and note the number and then type: âselect
> disk #â, where â#â is your USB disk number
>     * then type âcleanâ
>     * then type âcreate partition primaryâ
>     * then âselect partition 1â
>     * then âactiveâ
>     * then âformat fs=fat32 quickâ
> 
> Once youâve finished these steps you then need to copy your Windows 7
> files to the USB. To do this you have to mount your Windows 7 ISO as a
> virtual DVD. Doing this is easy:
> 
>    1. Install MagicDisk (free)
>    2. once installed, right-click on MagicDisk in your system tray click
> on âVirtual CD/DVD-Româ, select your DVD drive
>    3. then âMountâ and in the dialog window that opens up, select your
> Windows 7 ISO
>    4. Now in windows Explorer, click on your DVD drive and you should see
> all the Windows 7 Files. All you have to do now is copy and paste all the
> files to your USB key and you have a Windows 7 USB Installation Stick!
>    5. Install the stick in the PC you want to install Windows 7 on and
> boot up. Remember to change your bios to allow booting from USB
> end{quote}
> http://windows7news.com/2009/04/06/how-to-install-windows-7-from-a-usb-
> hard-drive/
> 
> Contrast this to installing a Free Linux LIVE USB OS, Linux is WAY
> EASIER !!!:-
> SLAX: http://www.slax.org
> Slax for USB is distributed as a TAR archive. Simply unzip it to your USB
> device and run bootinst.bat (or bootinst.sh) to make it bootable.

Luckily, this may not be necessary. More and more companies are already preinstalling Linux
or putting it _on board_ (even in the English-speaking world, which is slowest
to depart from Windows). Foxconn is the latest example, which is promising
because it's one of the world's largest technology companies.

- -- 
		~~ Best of wishes

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