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[News] GNU/Linux Attacked by Microsoft Through the MBR

  • Subject: [News] GNU/Linux Attacked by Microsoft Through the MBR
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:48:09 +0000
  • Followup-to: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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How can people blame on GRUB if Windows doesn't like another bootloader? 

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| In my opinion, it's something as simple as 
| old Microsoft's motto in action: "It's the 
| Microsoft way or the highway". The update 
| process is taking a look at the MBR and 
| notices that's it's not Windows' 
| bootloader. "Who in their right mind would 
| dare install something on the MBR that's 
| not made by Microsoft?" I bet they think 
| there at Redmond. End of the game, let's 
| stop the update process... _and_ 
| (specially) not tell the user what's going 
| on. It wouldn't be as insulting if at least 
| they would suggest the user to replace the 
| MBR with Microsoft's tools. You know, it 
| can be replaced with GRUB a couple of 
| minutes later after shutting Windows down 
| after the upgrade process is done... but 
| what do we expect from a OS that was made 
| to resemble black magic, anyway?
| 
| As I have already said before:
| Windows equals esotericism
| GNU/Linux equals determinism
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http://maratux.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-can-people-blame-on-grub-if-windows.html

Windows Update Does Not Like GRUB

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| I recently received a set of Win7 upgrade 
| disks for the HP Pavillion, and decided to 
| install them before passing that machine 
| on. The compatibility check and preparation 
| procedure from the first disk ran just 
| fine, then it rebooted and told me to 
| insert the Win7 disk. When I did that, it 
| started running "setup copying files"... 
| and then announced that it had run into an 
| unexpected error, and couldn't continue. 
| Grrrr. It's not possible that even 
| Microsoft is this stupid, that a Win7 
| upgrade on an essentially untouched Windows 
| installation doesn't work. So what could be 
| the problem? I finally realized that the 
| only thing that had changed was the 
| bootloader. So I restored that, ran the 
| Win7 upgrade again, and this time it 
| worked! That reminded me of the previous 
| SP2 problem, so I went to the N10J, 
| restored the Windows bootloader, ran 
| Windows Update, and it installed SP2 
| successfully this time!
| 
| So, a warning. If you are multi-booting 
| Windows and Linux, and using GRUB, don't be 
| surprised if Windows Update starts failing 
| on you. The simple solution is to keep a 
| copy of the MBR, both the Windows and Linux 
| version, which you can put in place as 
| needed.
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http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10014915o-2000498448b,00.htm


Recent:

Vista SP1 won't install on dual-boot systems: Microsoft

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| If youâre dualbooting Windows Vista Enterprise or Ultimate alongside a Linux 
| distro, and have installed the Linux bootloader into the MBR, then youâre 
| guaranteed to run into problems when installing Vista Service Pack 1, 
| Microsoft has admitted.   
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http://apcmag.com/vista_sp1_wont_install_on_dualboot_systems_microsoft.htm


Related:

Geek in Paradise - Vista Upgrade

,----[ Quote ]
| As the HP Advisor disc was in the process of finishing, the machine
| froze solid. After giving it 5 minutes of no disk activity, I reset
| the machine to be greeted by a lovely blinking cursor. I put the
| Vista disc in and booted into a repair installation, where I ran the
| Repair tool. My hunch was proved correct when it returned a corrupted 
| MBR, which it had fixed. Thinking all was well, I rebooted to be
| greeted with a black screen (no blinking cursor). Well, there's
| something more going on so I rebooted into the repair tool and let
| it do it's thing. This time, it found a Corrupted Partition table
| which it then said it repaired. Awesome! Next reboot was greeted by
| the same black screen, so I figured the other partition was corrupt
| as well and let the repair tool run again and fix the partition
| table again. Reboot, same thing...
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http://geekinparadise.com/2007/04/05/vista-upgrade/


Vista scoots to new boot, but it's still kinda rooted

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| While Microsoft would like the world to believe that anyone running Windows 
| has no need of any other operating system, that attitude doesn?t cut much 
| mustard with many of its users.
| 
| Why settle for one OS when your PC is easily capable of running two or 
| more?
| 
| [...]
| 
| One of the more questionable tactics that Microsoft has implemented in
| Vista is to automatically overwrite any existing MBR during the
| installation process without asking if you mind or giving you an option
| to back up.
| 
| Microsoft says that the Windows installation system can't intelligently
| interrogate an existing non-MS MBR, although such features are quite
| common in the install routine for other OSes.
| 
| It also argues that an "official" Vista MBR is required for security
| features -- such as measured boot, which works with Trusted Platform
| Module (TPM)-enabled chips to check that the OS hasn't been hacked or
| altered each time it boots -- to work correctly.
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http://www.apcstart.com/site/akidman/2006/09/1656/vista-scoots-to-new-boot-but-its-still-kinda-rooted
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