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[News] [Rival] ISO Implicitly Acknowledges Microsoft Corrupted the Process

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] ISO Implicitly Acknowledges Microsoft Corrupted the Process
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:56:10 +0100
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ISO/IEC JTC1 Revises Directives, Addresses OOXML Abuses

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| First, we see the elimination of the 
| contradiction phase in Fast Track 
| processing.  If you recall, under previous 
| rules, a Fast Track begin with a 30-day NB 
| review period, sometimes called the 
| âcontradiction periodâ, where NBs were 
| invited to raise objections if they think 
| the Fast Track proposal contradicts an 
| existing ISO or IEC standard.  This was 
| followed by a 5-month ballot.   The 
| problem was that the word âcontradictionâ 
| was not defined, leading to various 
| irreconcilable interpretations.  In the 
| case of OOXML 20 JTC1 National Bodies 
| (NBs) raised contradictions.  Evidently, 
| the passage of time has lead to no 
| progress on defining what exactly a 
| contradiction is, so the contradiction 
| period has been eliminated entirely.  
| Instead, looking for âevident 
| contradictionsâ (still undefined) is given 
| to JTC1 administrative staff, which is the 
| surest way of guaranteeing that we never 
| hear of contradictions again.  The Fast 
| Track DIS ballot remains at 5-months, so 
| net-net this accelerates processing by one 
| month.
| Next, we see some clarification around how 
| NBs should vote on Fast Tracks.  Back, 
| during the OOXML ballot,  Microsoft made a 
| huge effort to convince NBs to vote âYes 
| with commentsâ if they found serious flaws 
| in the text, with the promise that they 
| would all be addressed at the BRM.  Well, 
| we now know that this was a big lie.  Very 
| few issues were actually discussed and 
| resolved at the BRM.  And most of them 
| were addressed by merely saying,  âSorry, 
| no changeâ.  At the time I argued that the 
| rules were quite clear, that disapproval 
| should be voiced by a âNo, with commentsâ 
| vote.  Well, we now see another small 
| slice of vindication.
| [...]
| Another change is that if the DIS ballot 
| fails to get sufficient votes, meaning 
| less than 2/3 approval of ISO/IEC  JTC1 P-
| members, or more than 25% disapproval 
| overall, the proposal dies at that point.  
| It doesnât go on to the BRM.  Game over.  
| If this rule had been in place back in 
| 2007, OOXML would not be an ISO standard 
| today.


"ISO is dead for software standards. Do you need an official funeral?"

                                --Benjamin Henrion, FFII president


OpenXML: What I havenât told yet about the BRM

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| Why Alex Brown, even knowing the importance
| of the issue, shamelessly manipulated the
| meeting to prevent the proposal presentation
| by Brazil ?
| I think many of these questions will stay
| unanswered, but Iâd really like to
| understand what motivated the Alex Brown to
| change in such an outrageous way the course
| (and outcome) of OpenXML in ISO.
| Since this meeting ended in Geneva, I
| havenât spent even one day of my life
| without wondering: What would have happened
| if we had presented our proposal, and what
| motivated Alex Brown to manipulate in such a
| way that meeting?
| Now that everyone knows the âbackstageâ of
| Alex Brownâs decision, preventing Brazil to
| present the binary mapping proposal of the
| last BRM day, a few comments are pertinent.
| Reviewing everything that happened during
| the BRM, the manipulation of the meeting
| progress by Alex Brown is getting more and
| more evident, and itâs also clear that he
| was responsible for enforcing the hidden
| agenda of the meeting. A quick search on his
| blog, his âcontributionsâ to OpenXML in ISO
| and his relationship with ECMA (and ECMA
| members), will show the close relationship
| he has with OpenXML (and this is the minimum
| I can write about it).
| An example of such manipulation of the
| agenda is clear and obvious: The ECMA
| delegation (as far as I remember ECMA isnât
| a ISO National Body) had 30 minutes in each
| of the first two days of the BRM to make a
| speeches about âlegacy compatibilityâ. In
| summary, the Brazilian delegation (which is
| an ISO National Body), couldnât speak for
| lack of time, but the ECMA had 30 minutes in
| each of the first two days of the meeting to
| make their speech. This stupidity didnât
| happened on the other days of the BRM
| because on the second day of the BRM, during
| a meeting between Alex Brown and the HoDs,
| Deivi (head of the Brazilian delegation)
| filed a protest against these ECMAâs
| speeches.
| Talking about ECMAâs speeches, one of those
| was given by a representative of the British
| Library, and I mention this fact because I
| have the impression that the triad British
| Library, Alex Brown and Microsoft may turn
| on some lights for my U.K. friends ( and I
| would love to know what they have to say
| about it).


Martin Bryan: we are getting âstandardization by corporationâ

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| A November informative report of Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34
| WG1 highlights the fallout of the ECMA-376 fast-track process for ISO. He
| says he is 'glad to be retiring before the situation becomes impossible'
| [...]
| In what is an astonishingly outspoken report, Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 has given us insight into the total mess that Microsoft/ECMA
| have caused during their scandalous, underhand and unremitting attempts to
| get - what is a very poorly written specification {i.e. DIS 29500 aka OOXML,
| AR} - approved as an ISO standard. â


Dysfunctional ISO - Courtesy of Microsoft


Microsoft accused of stacking ISO committee

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| In a memo sent following his last meeting as head of the working group on
| WG1, which is handling Microsoftâs application to make the Word format an ISO
| standard as ECMA 376, outgoing Governor Martin Bryan (above), an expert on
| SGML and XML, accused the company of stacking his group.

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