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____/ Homer on Thursday 30 Jun 2011 23:56 : \____
> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>> ____/ Homer on Thursday 30 Jun 2011 21:32 : \____
>>> Verily I say unto thee, that RonB spake thusly:
>>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:02:27 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>> ____/ Rex Ballard on Thursday 30 Jun 2011 14:07 : \____
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me, it was God working a miracle anonymously.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was a good post until that last line (maybe a metaphor though)
>>>>> ;-
>>>>
>>>> Religious belief should be "censored" now?
>>>
>>> I'm not religious, but equally I'm not venomously anti-religious - a
>>> disturbing trend in today's society. Imperialist history and certain
>>> fundamentalist beliefs aside (Jihadism), there's nothing immoral
>>> about religion per se, and indeed I share many (but not all) of the
>>> moral tenets expounded by certain religions, even if I don't share
>>> their members' faith. In fact, in many ways some members of the
>>> anti-religion movement behave like /it/ is a religion, and a rather
>>> Jihadist one at that. It's spiteful, bigoted and unnecessary, IMO,
>>> like homophobia. The fact that I'm not religious shouldn't mean I'm
>>> at war with those who are.
>>
>> What if a school teaches your kid that dinosaurs lived with humans
>> (for example)?
>
> My school taught me that an atom is a ball with electrons flying around
> the outside of it in a linear fashion. That turned out to be inaccurate
> too. Should I have launched a Jihad against all science because of that
> fact?
>
> I can think of far more important things to worry about than the origin
> of the species, whatever it may be. Presumably those Texan children get
> taught to read, write and count, without Darwinism or Creationism being
> a problem. If people choose to teach their children their beliefs, then
> that's none of my business. Those children grow up eventually, discover
> this miraculous thing called an opinion, and decide for themselves what
> to believe in. I'm not going to persecute people for merely /having/ an
> opinion, especially if the opinion has no detrimental effect on my life
> whatsoever. They're not attacking me, so why should I attack them?
>
>> And what if a good GP who saved lives gets no credit and instead
>> prayer is getting attribution?
>
> No credit? Sounds serious.
>
> Personally I don't believe in prayer, because I don't believe there's a
> God to pray /to/, but I've heard enough doctors give up to know science
> doesn't have all the answers, and I've seen enough people beat the odds
> to know there's a lot to be said for mind over matter, even if they use
> some dubious faith to encourage (or comfort) them. Who am I (or you) to
> tell them they can't draw strength from their beliefs, however dubious?
>
>> In places like Texas religion is at war against science
>
> Maybe, but who fired the starter pistol?
>
> From what I've seen (elsewhere, at least), it's the anti-religious nuts
> who are the /aggressors/, and the religious people just want to be left
> in peace. I don't see them hurling missiles in /my/ direction. Do you?
>
>> and the ones picking a bone have an agenda.
>
> Maybe their "agenda" is for people to stop persecuting them.
>
>> Since you've mentioned homophobia, it's usually religions that adhere
>> to it.
>
> Homophobia, anti-religion, whatever ... it's all bigotry. One is not an
> excuse for the other.
I think you underestimate the seriousness of the situation in Texas. Do some YouTube or
Google search around that subject and you will see. I too used to think as you do.
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