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Re: Apple feels the squeeze from Linux

  • Subject: Re: Apple feels the squeeze from Linux
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 15:35:51 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [Peter Köhlmann] on Sunday 04 December 2005 14:33 \__

> begin  virus.txt.scr Rick wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:50:21 +0000, Peter Jensen wrote:
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>> Sandman wrote:
>>>>> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28612
>>>>> KDE: isn't she a beauty?
>>>> Seriously, you think that screen looks good? Apple is in better shape
>>>> than I thought if this is the "competition". :-D

This  looks  very similar to Brushed/Aqua in Tiger, provided that you  ac-
count for 'lossiness'. Consider this a /demonstration/ of the power of KDE
--  its ability to adapt, match or emulate merely any other desktop  envi-
ronment  once the appropriate bits and bobs and enabled. Functionality  at
the core is key.

Vista,  by  the way, is expected to have the same visual effects,  but  as
usual,  it will be far less efficient (many wasted resources  already[1]),
so will require monstrous hardware[2] to work at full capacity.

[1] http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/index.php?p=459

[2] http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/09/07/vista_hardware_reqs/

>>> It's a JPEG image, you can't expect it to look good with lossy
>>> compression.  You don't get the full effect until you install and use it
>>> on your own machine.  Besides, you're a Mac fanboy, so your opinion can't
>>> really be trusted on this.  You're way too deep into the
>>> Reality-Distortion Field.

True. KDE 3.4 seems to have plenty of Eye Candy that does not exist in Mac
OS X. I am not just talking about fade in/out effects, but also some addi-
tional notions of window behaviour and corresponding user-adaptable inter-

There  will  come a point (maybe KDE 4) when you will sit next to  experi-
enced  Linux  users who will show you exciting stuff and say to  you  "you
can't  do this is Mac OS or Windows". KDE Plasma [1] looks promising. Same
with Luminocity [2] (swinging menus), but I suspect that's GNOME-only.

[1] http://plasma.bddf.ca/

[2] http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/temp/seth/blog/xshots.html

>> I am not a mac fanboi. I switched -from- OS X -to- Linux...
>> ... so someone has managed to paste the OS look, particularly the brushed
>> metal theme, onto KDE does not mean KDE/Linux acts anything like OS X. And
>> yes, I use an Aqua-like color theme in Gnome, KDE and WindowMaker.
> Actually, it is of no importance whatsoever to "act like OSX"
> Acting like KDE will just be fine

Exactly.  I use Plastik at home and Keramik at the University. I use  Crux
with a Jaguar-like theme at work (Ubuntu/GNOME) and it reminds me of Macs.
All in all, I find it the least appealing among all work environments.

The  Mac  hardware is neatly designed. This helps the iPod, for  instance,
sell  rather  well. Mind you, for good-looking hardware you must also  pay
the  price. Getting a modern SuSE box for just GBP 150 (including tax  and
delivery) is not something Apple can ever compete with.


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