Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> __/ [John Bokma] on Sunday 04 December 2005 07:00 \__
>
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> __/ [John Bokma] on Sunday 04 December 2005 01:51 \__
>>>
>>>> And what did it do?
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>> Nice! A new little script to play with. I am happy to see that you
>>> chose CSV
>>
>> well, technically TSV :-D, but Calc is happy to import it :-D.
>>
>>> and even mentioned Calc rather than Excel.
>>
>> Yup, I have only a Spanish version of Excel floating around, or a 95
>> (!) version, so I didn't bother to try that.
>>
>> I try to stick with OpenOffice.org, and hope it gets better.
>>
>>> Both are bloated
>>> applications so I tend to use KSpread for CSV format.
>>
>> Still "stuck" with Windows XP. Bought this week Xara Xtreme :-D
>> (Couldn't wait for the OS port, which probably will take a year: I
>> always said that MSN Messenger and Xara kept me from Linux, so who
>> knows).
>
>
> All of that stuff exists for Linux
exists: you mean there is something similar. However, that doesn't mean
it comes even close.
> and is free. The programs have
> different names though, which needs accustoming. Examples:
>
> iTunes -> AmaroK
> MSN -> Gaim, aMSN and many more
None can do a video chat (although I understand there is an attempt to
integrate something like that with Gaim, as with a lot of OS
development: early alpha, maybe will never be finished). Also other
stuff is not supported (I doubt winks are supported). Not that I need
all of those, but Gaim is just not MSN Messenger. Gaim can be best
compared with Trillian.
> Xara -> Blender,
No, Blender is not a replacement for Xara :-D
> Inkscape,
Have looked at Inkscape: another typical OS project: has 1001 features
people rarely use, but lacks the things mortals needs. There is no way
you can compare this with Xara, sorry.
> GIMP
Xara has an image editor, but I think GIMP can do more. GIMP probably
lacks a lot of the vector capabilities of Xara.
There *is* a reason Xara is going to be ported to Linux and the Mac. A
few years earlier it might have been close to a killer app.
> Maya -> POVRay
Ha ha ha, you must be joking my dear. Blender does probably more what
Maya does, but you can't compare those two.
> XNews -> Pan, KNode, etc.
> ...
>
>
>>> By the way, in case you ever want to extend this by making it
>>> Web-based (or have it contained in a front-end),
>>
>> If people are interested in it, I can look into HTML output. One
>> could run it in cron :-D.
>
> There must be (a) simple converter(s) already. The most common terms
> to try produce a few good results, which I haven't bothered to
> follow yet. Try csv2html or csv2html or tsv2htm. They will probably
> lead to source code and a few executable because they should be
> rather simple (maybe a single C function).
It's not that hard to create a HTML table ;-) Most work will probably go
into the CSS to make it look good.
>>> have a look at:
>>>
>>> http://www.scheinwelt.at/~norbertf/devel/websheet/
>>>
>>> I have been happily using it for a couple of months.
>>
>> Looks nice, thanks.
>
> __/ [John Bokma] on Sunday 04 December 2005 07:06 \__
>
>> Hmmm, with AJAX it could look even better :-D.
>
>
> AJAX spreadsheet frameworks do exist (I can chase the link for you).
> That is true for pretty much everything that exists in office modern
> suites, but publicity is a barrier. The issue is that these
> 'components' are scat- tered and there's plenty of them, which are
> of course commercial. Being Web services, there is the issue of
> bandwidth and bleeding-edge develop- ment, I guess.
Yup, and with a lot of Open Source, or related projects: we started
something... but we couldn't finish. I always get sad when I see that
people prefer to reinvent the wheel (there are often 20 similar
projects), and after a year give up (so 21 unfinished projects).
> Google, Yahoo
> and MSN engineers are treading strong with that newly-supported
> functionality. Not the typical out-of-work Open Source developer's
> leisure-time occupation...
AJAX is dead simple, and nothing new. I mean, browsers did for years
exactly what you can do with AJAX: loading a bit of data asynchronously.
Before it was possible from JavaScript directly, a common trick was to
make a frame with zero height, refresh that one (it's more or less
hidden), and the new data contains JavaScript that updates another
frame.
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