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Re: old sites playing dirty tricks

__/ [wd] on Sunday 23 October 2005 06:57 \__

> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:24:50 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> __/ [wd] on Sunday 23 October 2005 05:55 \__
>>> I'm seeing old sites that have been around for many years that are on
>>> the same exact IP address and they are obviously just different domain
>>> names with nearly the same content except optimized for location.
>> I  usually  think of Palm and other large companies when that  observation
>> gets discussed. True, they are optimised for location, but there is plenty
>> of repetition too.
>> I  pointed out Palm because often I end up landing in a page that does not
>> serve me with what I have sought. Instead, there can be a single site with
>> pages  that  are delivered depending on the country where the visitor  re-
>> sides.
>> These site regionalised 'mirrors' are very much like porting/forking of an
>> application  rather than extension of the trunk. Imagine yourself  Firefox
>> being  sub-divided  to "Cool Surfer Edition", "Asian  edition",  "Censored
>> Edition" and so forth... need we speak of Windows Vista which will come in
>> 7  editions?!?!?! Windows inheriting that Linux terribly messy 'model'  of
>> distributions?
> 7 editions of VISTA?  I can picture it already...
> * demo (free Enterprise edition for 30 days)
> * quickstart edition ($69, includes paint and notepad version 12)
> * Student edition ($119, includes Wordpad 12, and $20 off MS anti-spyware)
> * Home edition ($169, includes minesweeper 12 and two new card games)
> * Professional edition ($249, allows networking of up to 3 computers)
> * Developers edition ($599, includes Monad)
> * Enterprise edition ($1199, for small business)

Read the following:

* http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1858101,00.asp

He is being quite funny about it too.

>>> I'm not even sure if Google can automatically detect
>>> hidden text very well because I see it everywhere. It is a bit
>>> frustrating when you are trying to do things legitimately...
>> Nobody  can  detect  mirrors.  I  once spoke  to  a  professor  about  our
>> 'almighty'  plagiarism  detection system and he admitted it was more of  a
>> scare  factor. You can /suspect/ a mirror, but rarely have any  certainty.
>> If  you  can't tell which the original source is, as in the case with  the
>> WWW, you cannot penalise (safely) either.
> Are you saying that in the case of duplicate sites Google can't tell which
> one is the original?

Not confidently. Nobody could. Some people quote other sites without
crediting with a link. There are many rip-offs I have come across and they
are merely undetectable. A good item can quickly have its SERP's snatched.
For example, Google "french women don't get fat" and see what I'm referring

> I don't think Google can detect a lot of things.  I've seen some really
> strange SEO out there.  You would think Google would penalize a site for
> having a single period or underscore as the link text 15 times on a page...

More worrying is the fact that as a Webmaster, there are many secondary
factors to be aware of. Try telling a Webmaster that he/she must never use
underscores, that he/she must percolate 'energy' wisely, etc.

It's an unfair game. And guess what? It's getting worse. Spam is everywhere:
site traffic, referrers, E-mail, content, links. Just name it, spam is there
to stay, if not expand too.

What's worse is that immature child-like game where people say "they did it
first". This relates to the subject line as a matter of fact.

* "These competitors of mine buy links, so why can't I?"

* "E-mail spam is everywhere, so why not add our contribution?"

* ...


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