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Re: Redirecting with 301 lost from Google index?

  • Subject: Re: Redirecting with 301 lost from Google index?
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:40:52 +0000
  • Newsgroups: alt.internet.search-engines
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__/ [ madsgormlarsen@xxxxxxxxx ] on Wednesday 15 March 2006 11:26 \__

> I have moved my site from at temporary place on
> http://www.madsgormlarsen.dk/andersen to final destination
> http://www.winches.dk .
> 
> Google was for a few day listing both sites, I then did a 301
> redirecting on the old www.madsgormlarsen.dk/andersen. Which appear to
> work perfectly. However then Google removed www.winches.dk from their
> index and kept www.madsgormlarsen.dk/andersen?
> 
> Needless to say, that was not the result I was looking for :-)
> 
> HTTP header returns:
> 
> HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently =>
> Date => Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:11:44 GMT
> Server => Apache/1.3.34 (Unix) Sun-ONE-ASP/4.0.2 PHP/4.4.2
> mod_ssl/2.8.25 OpenSSL/0.9.6b FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_throttle/3.1.2
> Location => http://madsgormlarsen.dk/andersen/
> Connection => close
> Content-Type => text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> I am now trying to add both old and new site to Google sitemaps beta
> program. Apparently Google could not find the map at the old site, I am
> guessing this is because it is redirected to the new site.
> 
> http://www.madsgormlarsen.dk/andersen/sitemap.xml
> 
> But I placed the same sitemap at both sites, and then Google did find
> it at the redirected place.
> 
> http://www.winches.dk/sitemap.xml
> 
> Now winches.dk showed up in Goolge search result once again, and there
> was much rejoicing. Until it disappear from search results once again,
> and left me with the old site in Google search result.
> 
> In the Googe sitemap for
> http://www.madsgormlarsen.dk/andersen/sitemap.xml I get the following
> error message ?This url is not allowed for a Sitemap at this
> location.? Which is strange because Google suggest you use a 301, and
> a sitemap to point to the new site. Which is what I have done.
> 
> Now I am trying to give up on the 301 redirect, I just use a javascript
> for the redirect.
> 
> I will keep you posted...

Please do.

This sounds very complicated or at least cumbersome. I guess it's somewhat
fair. Google require some legwork in order for new, yet untrusted domains to
be recognised and honoured.

They say that one day we may simply submit our Web pages to Google rather
host them on the Web. Lo and behold: Google are offering services for Web
page creation (no, not Blogger and Blogspot).

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