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Re: (Article) Worthless Content Blamed on Search Engines

  • Subject: Re: (Article) Worthless Content Blamed on Search Engines
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:19:20 +0000
  • Newsgroups: alt.internet.search-engines
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [ Big Bill ] on Thursday 16 March 2006 18:16 \__

> On 16 Mar 2006 09:16:36 -0800, "Fritz M" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> That's bull. They have picked up some sketchy, semi-cooked report off my
>>> site. I don't know the selection criteria, but it should /not/ be
>>> trusted.
>>> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=schestowitz
>>Interesting. This highlights the importance of trusting sources beyond
>>Google :-) See also "Alan Sokal."

I don't know who he is or what this search is intended to demonstrate. I
noticed that Google Scholar had stored the (/some proportion of) documents
locally, which is odd.

>>> > http://www.cyclelicio.us/
>>> Nice site. I can't quite understand what CMS drives it, which is a good
>>> thing...
>>Thanks; It's just regular ol' Blogger.com with some Javascript hacks to
>>make it useful.  There's also an experiment in floating design that
>>breaks for screen widths less than 800 px. I need to fix this design
>>Here's an SEO question: The actual main content appears first in the
>>HTML before the left and right sidebars. I use CSS to position the
>>text. I do this because SE crawlers weight the importance of text
>>depending on position in the HTML. This is especially important on the
>>"permalink" or susidiary pages. It's not cloaking or hidden text -- I
>>just reposition because the content in the center section is what the
>>page is about, while the stuff in the left sidebar is really fairly
>>extraneous. Does anyone know, however, if the SEs might consider this
>>an attempt to mislead?
> I wouldn't imagine so. This whole angle is open to debate, actually,
> as not everyone would agree that the engine weight the earlier stuff
> more. I think they do myself, but not everyone else agrees. I'd do the
> same thing myself if I had to format a page that way and I'd do it
> without fear of penalty.
> BB

I don't know the answer, but I tend to believe and also suspect that earlier
content is weighted more. I think it follows common sense. Introductions
better encapsulate and reflect on the content in its entirety.

Using precedence for backing, WordPress was built with SEO in mind and it
contains the main content at the top. Navbars and footers comes at the end.

Best wishes,


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