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Re: [News] Proprietary Drivers Leave Vista/Windows Behind (in 32-bit World), Less Secure

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> 64-bit PCs: Drivers wanted
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Microsoft is requiring those device manufacturers to develop 64-bit drivers 
>| if they want their devices to work with the 64-bit edition of Windows Vista, 
>| in an effort to ensure that device drivers are written to proper standards.  
> `---- 
> 
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6200517.html
> 
> http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g262/Clyzer/?action=view&current=Untitled.jpg
> 
> The consequences of closed source. More here:
> 

And yet, so many people here, in cola, are arguing that proprietary
drivers are a good thing, even in Linux.

> Graphics drivers are malware compliant 
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Whilst Microsoft claimed to have closed off that exploit for the final 
>| release of Vista, there are still plenty of ways to attack Windows Vista and 
>| install malicious rootkits, which her presentation yesterday proved. By using 
>| the Nvidia driver as a proxy for writing code to the kernel, she showed how a 
>| rootkit was able to bypass Vista's kernel protection system, which claims to 
>| prevent unsigned and unreliable code causing problems.     
> `----
> 
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41440
> 
> 
> Related:
> 
> Windows Vista 64-Bit Blue Screen of Death
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| I?ve been running Windows Vista 64-bit for quite some time now; a few times 
>| the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) has come up when the system crashed. 
> `----
> 
> http://www.josenet.com/windows-vista-64-bit-blue-screen-of-death
> 
> 
> Dell doesn't ship 64-bit versions of Vista 
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| If you want to install Windows Vista Ultimate with 64 bit version, 
>| you can purchase teh version from Dell, as Dell ship only Vista 
>| ultimate in 64 bit version. It all happens due to business
>| contract with microsoft. 
> `----
> 
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39644
> 
> 
> Vista users get the 64-bit blues
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Microsoft is keen to stir up enthusiasm for Windows Vista, but
>| when it comes to the 64-bit edition of the recently released
>| operating system, the software giant is sending decidedly
>| mixed messages.
> `----
> 
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Vista_users_get_the_64_bit_blues/0,130061733,339273707,00.htm
> http://tinyurl.com/224e3f
> 
> 
> Microsoft Windows Vista: MISLEADING!
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Do you have a 64-bit processor? Did you think you were going to get a
>| 64-bit OS when you purchased your copy of Windows Vista?
> `----
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxDd9iDcZWY
> 
> 
> Next Release of OneCare Won't Support Vista x64
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| When Microsoft announced that it was ready to roll out Windows Live
>| OneCare version 1.5 to coincide with the general release of Windows
>| Vista, it omitted one important fact: the product will not support
>| Vista x64 or XP x64.
> `----
> 
> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/security/next_release_of_onecare_still_wontsupport_vista_x64.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
> http://tinyurl.com/26ndme
> 
> 
> iPhone?s 64-bit Windows Incompatibility Investigated
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Is 64-bit Computing Limiting for the Casual User? For the average home user, 
>| there is absolutely no need to even consider going this route at this point. 
>| When you consider the fact that we remain in a holding pattern with adoption 
>| and developers don't appear to be overly anxious to help out those adopters 
>| who are using this platform, one has to wonder why anyone is bothering with 
>| 64-bit options as this point.     
> `----
> 
> http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2602&Itemid=449
> 
> 
> iPhone not supported under 64-bit Windows XP or Vista -- oops
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Apple's official (read: the non-marketing document which no one reads) 
>| iPhone: Minimum system requirements document does say that "64-bit editions 
>| of Windows are not supported." Go ahead, try to find it in the small print,
>| we'll wait...
> `----
> 
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/30/iphone-not-supported-under-64-bit-windows-xp-or-vista-oops/
> 
> 
> Microsoft Vista 64 bit is no go in 2007 
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Without an exception, they all think it's too early and the drivers
>| won't be that polished for 64 bit either. AMD and Intel have CPUs which
>| can support 64 operating systems but the drivers are still lame,
>| unpolished and slow compared with 32 bit.
> `----
> 
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36938
> 
> 
> Vista 64 VS Vista 32
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Vista 64 has a slight advantage over the 32 Bit version speed
>| wise, unfortunately due to the stringent drivers requirements
>| for the 64 Bit versions, at this point
>| my recommendations are to stick with the 32 Bit version of
>| Vista until most of  hardware manufacturers and software
>| manufactures (including Microsoft) decide to actually take
>| advantage of the 64 Bit architecture!
>| Even better: get serious and do some progress in this
>| industry, I am sick and tired to just see marketing
>| numbers and not actually progress here.
> `----
> 
> http://vistaincompatible.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1171842357
> 
> 
> Windows XP 64 is crap and things break and printers dont work and
> quickbooks doesnt work the list goes on
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Morale (sic) of the story is - if you are using Microsoft products, stay
>| away from the cutting edge - it sucks pretty bad.
> `----
> 
> http://www.pintmaster.com/20061212/windows-xp-64-is-crap-and-things-break-and-printers-dont-work-and-quickbooks-doesnt-work-the-list-goes-on/
> http://tinyurl.com/yguyum
> 
> 
> Support for Microsoft Windows XP x64 Not Worth Anything
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Almost no one is supporting Microsoft Windows XP x64, the 64-bit
>| version of Windows XP.
>| 
>| There are no Antivirus programs that work with x64 and most
>| applications won't work with x64 (unless they run the crippled
>| 32-bit equivalent).
>| 
>| Programs won't install printer drivers because, apparently, no one
>| can figure out how to write a 64-bit printer driver.
>| 
>| If Windows XP x64 has this much trouble with basic elements such
>| as printer drivers, how can anyone expect the much maligned Windows
>| Vista to be of any value?
>| 
>| Frankly, my high opinion of Microsoft is quickly fading away, and
>| my shop used to be a staunch Microsoft shop.
>| 
>| Open Source alternatives are looking better and better every
>| day.
> `----
> 
> http://roacm.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> Why There is Better Driver Support in 64-bit Linux Than 64-bit Windows XP
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| In the free world of Linux I have a working, usable, fast
>| and stable 64-bit operating system. In the secret world of
>| Microsoft I will have to return to using the 32-bit version.
>| But the question is will I? I think I will stick with Linux.
>| It looks like I need to go back on my hands and knees and beg
>| forgiveness from my SUSE 10.1 system for every doubting it
>| and for my unfaithful fling with Microsoft.
> `----
> 
> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2006-10-17-031-26-RV-HE-MS
> 
> 
> Sigrity Supports 64-bit Linux Computing Platforms
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Sigrity, Inc., the market leader in signal and power integrity
>| software solutions, today announced its full support for 64-bit
>| Linux computing platforms by porting all of its signal and power
>| integrity software products to systems running the 64-bit Linux
>| operating system.
> `----
> 
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070115/20070115005002.html?.v=1


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