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Re: [News] GNOME Assimilates to Windows?

____/ BearItAll on Friday 31 August 2007 08:41 : \____

> Linonut wrote:
> 
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out this bit o'
>> wisdom:
>> 
>>> Mono developer brings the Ribbon interface to Linux
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | In a recent blog entry, lead Mono developer Miguel de Icaza expressed
>>> | interest in using the new Ribbon interface components in a future
>>> | version of MonoDevelop, an open source IDE for C# programming.
>>> `----
>>>
>>>
>
http://www.arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/08/30/mono-developer-brings-the-ribbon-interface-to-linux
>>>
>>> A (Microsoft) Code Name a Day: Nautilus
>>>
>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=687
>>>
>>> See the comment. This is looking bad. Yesterday:
>>> http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/29/gnome-mono-plan/
>> 
>>    I hate to brea
> 
> k it to you, but Miguel Icaza is and always has been a
>>    gigantic charlatan. I have never understood why so many people put
>>    him up on some godlike pedestal and proclaim his greatness so
>>    much\u2013I have yet to see anything he has done that impresses me at
>>    all. GNOME was a heavily rushed \u201cme too\u201d game that produced
>>    a horribly unstable mess for many, many iterations of it\u2019s
>>    release cycle. It improved greatly once Icaza followed his attention
>>    defecit disorder to his next half-baked project (which also fell by
>>    the wayside in favour, eventually, of MONO).
>> 
>>    But I have seen much to make me quite suspicious of his motives. And
>>    his blatant love for Microsoft has been well-known for a long
>>    time\u2026 Why is this still news to some people?
>> 
>> In any case, I suspect XFce and fluxbox (for two) are nice fall-back
>> plans for those who find KDE to be too much.
>> 
>>    www.freedesktop.org
>> 
> 
> I saw that ribbon toolbar on a reps computer (he has Vista, the new office
> and before he left he had asked if I had had any success attaching Vista
> machines to the network because his IT couldn't manage it).
> 
> Anyway, I noticed that he was having trouble each time he went up to the
> ribbon toolbar, even for things he must have used many times such as
> 'Open'. Then to run his presentation he was almost at the point of giving
> up, you know how flustered sales reps get when they patter doesn't go to
> plan, and you know how we don't help at all because we watch in silence
> with a smirk on our face, I was looking too and couldn't see anything that
> looked like Slide Show or Run or what ever MS calls it.
> 
> That toolbar takes up far too much of the users work space and it isn't
> intuitive to use. It is another change for the sake of eye candy without
> any thought given to whether the change will improve work progress for
> users. But I also think it fails as far as eye candy is concerned too, it
> doesn't look good or clever or pretty, it just looks big.
> 
> 
> I hope we don't start going in that direction with Linux products.

Have you seen all those references which suggest you are right? I'll append
them.

You hit the nail on the head when you say "it's just too big". I always hide
the toolbars and status bar unless I actually require them. That ribbon thing
is a monster (in terms of scale), never mind how much CPU it takes to draw and
redraw it.

___


Partners Fix Up Office 2007 and Windows Vista

,----[ Quote ]
| On Friday, Addintools, based in Hai-nan, China released Classic Menu for 
| Office 2007, after more than six months of beta testing. The user interface 
| enhancement does what Office 2007 can't: Revert to the Office 2003 look and 
| feel.   
`----

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/channel/partners_fix_up_office_2007_and_windows_vista.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535


Why Microsoft's ribbon sucks

,----[ Quote ]
| Bottom line, I have a lot of respect for Microsoft and many of the 
| outstanding people that work there (e.g. Bill Buxton). 
| 
| But the new ribbon sucks.
| 
| I've been using it daily for months (Word, Powerpoint, Excel), and I 
| consistently stumble on the same functions over and over again. I doubt I 
| will ever master it. And I'm an interface designer!  
`----

http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/08/why-microsofts-ribbon-sucks.html


Poor Design by Microsoft - "Save As" Button in 2007 Excel has been located!

,----[ Quote ]
| In an experiment 4 out of 5 users took longer than 2 minutes to find
| the SAVE AS button. And 3 of those users needed to use the PAPER CLIP
| (CLIPPY). This is clearly poor design upon Microsoft. They never think
| about the end user. The menu structure is horrific and it has been
| proven inefficient!
`----

http://www.fumbled.org/2007/04/20/poor-design-by-microsoft-save-as-button-in-2007-excel-has-been-located/


Bold Redesign Improves Office 2007 But Learning Curve May Be Too Steep for
Some Users

,----[ Quote ]
| "it requires a steep learning curve that many people might rather avoid.
| In my own tests, I was cursing the program for weeks"

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116786111022966326-T8UUTIl2b10DaW11usf4NasZTYI_20080103.html


Office 2007 may be Microsoft's Titanic: former Government IT boss

,----[ Quote ]
| Bill Gates has been talking up Office 2007 ahead of its business launch
| on November 30. However, the recently departed deputy CIO of one of
| Australia's biggest government Microsoft sites believes introducing
| the new version of Microsoft Office may be the company's biggest
| ever disaster.
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7234/53/


Question: why do I need to upgrade to Office 2007?

,----[ Quote ]
| Much has been said and written about Microsoft's "bold", "gutsy",
| and "innovative" initiative of releasing Office 2007, an office
| productivity suite with a totally new user interface. However, the
| question that is bound to be on the lips of every user will be: "why
| do I need to upgrade?" Microsoft doesn't really have a good answer.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Microsoft, however, claims to have come up with something better
| and more intuitive - the Ribbon. Such a claim begs the question:
| "If the new user interface of Office 2007 is so intuitive, why does
| it have a learning curve?" And it does have a learning curve - a
| very steep learning curve.
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8561/1023/


Office 2007 Review: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back - Part 1

,----[ Quote ]
| I've been using Office 2007 for a couple of weeks and I'm convinced
| that Microsoft missed an opportunity to change the way we relate to
| software by taking one step toward radical change, but ultimately
| failing when it came to implementation.
`----

http://byronmiller.typepad.com/byronmiller/2007/04/office_2007_one.html


Vole redesigns our Office space

,----[ Quote ]
| It's hard to define, but the new office suite feels good and is
| comfortable to use. That said if your requirements don't stretch
| beyond the normal usage of the odd letter, a spreadsheet to
| balance your budget and some email then there isn't a lot to
| recommend forking over cash for Office 2007, when there are
| several free options out there are increasingly attractive
| and compatible with Office documents.
| 
| The Good
| Ribbon interface quite intuitive
| Interface is attractive and easy to use
| 
| The Bad
| Quite expensive
| Free applications available that can perform the same tasks
| No major improvements over previous versions
| 
| The Ugly
| Too many components seem solely designed to leverage synergies or something
| No option to revert to old interface 
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http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=37376


Is Imitation The Sincerest Form of Flattery?

,----[ Quote ]
| As many as 8 of the top 10 benefits of Microsoft Office 2007
| provide capabilities that have already been addressed by Corel
| WordPerfect Office X3. Some "new" features of Microsoft Office
| 2007 have even been part of Corel WordPerfect Office for
| close to a decade!
`----

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Content_C1&cid=1166553933785&lc=en&pagename=CorelCom%2FLayout&trkid=wpe0107ft
http://tinyurl.com/2key74


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