It was on, or about, Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:18:48 +0100, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Mark Kent wrote:
> William Poaster <wp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>> It was on, or about, Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:02:43 +0100, that as I was
>> halfway through a large jam doughnut, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> ____/ William Poaster on Wednesday 04 July 2007 00:18 : \____
>>>
>>>> It was on, or about, Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:01:14 +0100, that as I was
>>>> halfway through a large jam doughnut, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ____/ Jim on Saturday 30 June 2007 11:21 : \____
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rockinghorse Winner came up with this when s/he headbutted the
>>>>>> keyboard a moment ago in comp.os.linux.advocacy:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It might be worth passing on these documents as attachments in
>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>> reports so
>>>>>>>> that Sun Micro, Novell and co. can debug and resolve these
>>>>>>>> issues. Binary mess, which requires reverse engineering, tends to
>>>>>>>> make things
>>>>>> unpredictable.
>>>>>>>> Will Microsoft mind and bother to 'fix' this? Of course not. It's
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>> feature,
>>>>>>>> not a problem. DOS ain't done until Lotus won't run...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW, I've never had a problem with Abiword opening and saving
>>>>>>> .DOC documents. Nice app.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't help that Microsoft .doc is a CLOSED FORMAT. Stop
>>>>>> complaining to those who adhere to sensible standards (ie
>>>>>> OpenDocument), and kick Microsoft up the arse. Or just kick
>>>>>> Microsoft altogether and complain to those who would cripple your
>>>>>> workday with closed format files and DEMAND open standards in the
>>>>>> workplace.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting article in a linux mag I just got. It involves Fista & M$
>>>> Office 2007, a trial version of course which would cease to function
>>>> after a certain time. The guy installed OpenOffice, & explained what
>>>> it could do etc. He was asked if he could show the documents that had
>>>> been done in M$ Office 2007. As it turned out, he couldn't......&
>>>> why? Because M$ is up to it's "lock in" tricks again. Instead of
>>>> being in .doc form, they're in .docx form! ok, he opened M$ Office
>>>> 2007 & tried to saved them in .doc form so OOo could read
>>>> them......er....no! The "Save As.." entry in the menu system was
>>>> *greyed out*, as were "Copy" & "Paste"!!??! "These features are only
>>>> available in the full version. Click here to purchase it" said a
>>>> pop-up notice.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, another M$ attempt at "lock in", folks. What a bag of shit.
>>>>
>>> Yes, Jeremy Allison wrote about exactly that a while ago. Greed and
>>> dirty tricks.
>>
>> And while we're on it, Roy, I don't know if you've seen what the
>> National Archives are up to with M$. Again, IMO, it's sheer ignorance
>> by the IT people at National Archives for allowing M$ to take charge of
>> this.
>>
>> "....some critics question Microsoft's approach and ask why the firm
>> has created its own new standard, rather than adopting a rival system,
>> called the Open Document Format.
>> [==]
>> Ben Laurie, director of the Open Rights Group, said: "This is a well-
>> known, standard Microsoft move.
>>
>> "Microsoft likes lock-ins. Typically what happens is that you end up
>> with two or three standards."
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6265976.stm
>>
>>
> Apparently, the "greyed out" .doc save in Vista Word was also covered in
> some depth in the Observer last sunday.
>
> The national archives issue is one of the biggest jokes in history, the
> only solution Microsoft will offer is to charge you to upgrade and
> change the format every year for a phenomenal support charge, and when
> you decide you've had enough, they'll charge you ten times that to move
> it to something open.
As I've said before, M$ relies on people's ignorance of choice. That is,
they don't want people to know there *is* a choice.
> Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any engineers left in the UK -
> perhaps this is what comes of dumbing down degrees so that 50% of the
> population get one instead of 5%.
Yes, it's a sad but true fact. I got mine in the 1960's, when a degree
was *worth* something.
--
"Anything said in COLA is a crock of shit."
Hadron Quark, Tuesday 03 Jul 2007
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
So this would include what *he* says!
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