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Re: [News] Google Expresses Intent to Stomp on Microsoft, Falls Victim to America-style Suits

____/ BearItAll on Friday 13 July 2007 13:23 : \____

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> 
>> ____/ BearItAll on Friday 13 July 2007 11:27 : \____
>> 
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oz watchdog accuses Google of misleading public
>>>> 
>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> | An ACCC statement says it is seeking declarations from both Google and
>>>> | Trading Post that they breached the Trade Practices Act, as well as an
>>>> | injunction "restraining Google from publishing search results that do
>>>> | not expressly distinguish advertisements from organic search results".
>>>> `----
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/12/accc_sues_google/
>>>> 
>>>> Can we please also have 'articles' (media placements) and forum posts
>>>> from Microsoft's astroturfers and shills tagged appropriately?
>>> 
>>> That is a bit daft, I have changed my mind, it is a lot daft, I don't
>>> want you to think I am in any way anti-aussie just because they bought
>>> our local brewries and totally destroyed the beer. Turning Newcastle
>>> brown and others into pure chemical mixes with manufactured alchohol.
>>> Beer in Aus must be really horrible is all I can say. Thank goodness they
>>> haven't bought Theakstons yet.
>>> 
>>> But if you have a seach engine that gets much of its content by trawling,
>>> how can they distinguish between those items trawled from commercial
>>> sites and those from non-commercial. Almost all web sites are advertising
>>> something.
>>> 
>>> But I suspect this beer wrecking aussie means she wants to better
>>> distinguish between sponsored commercial sites and other results. Isn't
>>> the whole point of a search to get you the information you are looking
>>> for? I would have thought that it is, so does it matter if the results
>>> include a mix of commercial and noncommercial? Nothing on google pages
>>> forces or tricks you into clicking a sponsored link.
>>> 
>>> To me the main reasons that Google is successful is that it does this
>>> extremely well. You get sponsered results as well as nonSponsered results
>>> that are relevant to your search. I use sponsered results on google, it
>>> works because you get what you are looking for, nearly every company on
>>> my list of prefered companies/contacts have come from a google search
>>> followed by a successfull company relationship.
>>> 
>>> So this ausie who like fellow ausies no doubt makes beer with a spatular
>>> and a couple of bags of powder mixed with tap water and topped up with a
>>> alchohol created in a labratory, is talking pants in my humble oppinion.
>>> 
>>> Actually it isn't really very humble, its    its         what ever the
>>> opposite of humble is.
>> 
>> I disagree with on this one. I happen to hate brainwash, even if it comes
>> wrapped in that blanket which people call "adverts" or "commercials".
>> Microsoft has a top result for many Linux related searches, but why? Do
>> they provide truthful information? Then again, a lot of Google search
>> results are SEO-ed or spammed for, which is why Wikia works on
>> alternative. The whole search biz is a bit of a mystery and a mess. I
>> trust Wikipedia more than I trust Google and I only use Google for things
>> I cannot find in Wikipedia.
>> 
> 
> Where are you getting this from. Example searches.
> 
> Seach For.................Microsoft links on the first page.
> Linux.................... None
> Linux MSN................ None
> Linux microsoft music.... None
> IE7 Linux................ None
> IE7 Ubuntu............... None
> 
> and so it goes on. So even if I try to provoke the engine into giving me a
> microsoft link, it just doesn't happen.

That's very odd. Something must have changed or maybe AdWords has been enhanced
to serve different sponsored links based on /more/ factors such as location,
O/S, etc. They try to maximise reach to mindless audiences (easy prey). I
can't really see what comes up over here because I forgot that Google is doing
ads. My applications have JS disabled and I have AdBlock installed in the Web
browser.

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