On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:49:57 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> ____/ Kier on Friday 07 September 2007 17:57 : \____
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>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:26:42 +0100, Mark Kent wrote:
>>
>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>> ____/ Kier on Thursday 06 September 2007 18:15 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:02:39 +0100, Mark Kent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>>> ____/ Mark Kent on Thursday 06 September 2007 12:56 : \____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Paid Lobbyist $160,000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>>>>>| Microsoft Paid Paid Bingham McCutchen $160,000 to Lobby Federal Gov't
>>>>>>>>>| in First Half of 2007
>>>>>>>>> `----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070905/microsoft_lobbying.html?.v=1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And we still allow this to happen? This is outrageous, and has no
>>>>>>>> place in a real democracy, or, for that matter, a constitutional
>>>>>>>> monarchy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly! Finally, someone who agrees that this is a disgusting and
>>>>>>> anti-democratic practise (only made legal by those who lobby in favour
>>>>>>> of lobbying, or those paying lawmakers to write the law). It's shredding
>>>>>>> democracy to pieces. One must wonder how much of that $160,000 (for 6
>>>>>>> months) Bingham McCutchen just tossed onto some senator's bank account.
>>>>>>> Heck. He may have bought Mr. Senator a session with a dozen hookers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Ghost says, welcome to the New World Order.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, I've been worried about lobbying for a few years now, I'm merely
>>>>>> becoming ever more concerned that it's destroying what was a vibrant
>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we need a move to PR to put a stop to this kind of thing? If
>>>>>> our governments were more representative of the views of the populous,
>>>>>> then maybe they'd be taken more seriously by the population at large.
>>>>>> On the other hand, since most people seem to watch east enders, pop
>>>>>> idol, big brother and so on, maybe we could have Stalin running things
>>>>>> and nobody would notice. Or a horse, maybe. Oh yeah, the yanks have
>>>>>> Bush, and nobody seems to have noticed...
>>>>>
>>>>> If that tinfoil hat of yours was any tighter, you'd suffocate. Come back
>>>>> down to Earth for a while, man, and maybe the oxygen will revive your
>>>>> common-sense.
>>>>
>>>> You're either in denial or fooled if you feel this way. This isn't anything
>>>> new (the corruption at the top), but the proportion of it (and the
>>>> visibility that the Internet gives it) cannot be ignored. All this
>>>> corruption is a case of stealing for the benefit of the wealthy. It's also
>>>> a matter of restriction and punishment, which is why Free software is so
>>>> crucial to the digital age we're entering.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's kier - as you're not a troll, you get an attack. If you were a
>>
>> You're a liar, Mark. Oh, and my name is Kier - captital K.
>>
>>> troll and had said the above, he'd be arguing. To put this another way,
>>> *you* just got trolled by kier.
>>
>> Bullshit. I'm just sick of reading paranoid nonsense. Healty skepticism
>> but this kind of stuff is more than that, and it's foolish and IMO
>> dangerous.
>>
>> Seeing conspiracy and corruption everywhere you look is not healthy. Try
>> for a more balanced view.
>
> You also called Rex a nutter. I took offence in this.
Because he *is* a nutter. Sad, but true.
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Kier
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