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Re: Russia Wants OpenDocument Format

____/ Mark Kent on Monday 24 September 2007 20:53 : \____

> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>> ____/ Ramon F Herrera on Friday 21 September 2007 06:16 : \____
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 4:25 pm, "ness...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>>> <ness...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 20, 12:50 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Russia is latest country to move towards OpenDocument format and open
>>>> > standards
>>>>
>>>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> > | The stated rationale for this legislation is that "open standards will
>>>> > | contribute to an increased number of bidders for government contracts
>>>> > | and will increase opportunities for Russian software developers...
>>>> > | [and] the problem of interoperability will be addressed as will the
>>>> > | ability to access information into the future."
>>>> > `----
>>>>
>>>> >http://www.itrportal.com/absolutenm/templates/article-docsoft.aspx?ar...
>>>>
>>>> > Meanwhile, schools move to Linux as well.
>>>>
>>>> > Yesterday:
>>>>
>>>> > Netherlands Picks ODF
>>>>
>>>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> > | Frank Heemskerk, Minister of Economic Affairs, announced today that
>>>> > | ODF will be the standard for reading, publishing and the exchange of
>>>> > | information for all governmental organisations. The deadline is
>>>> > | January 2009.
>>>> > `----
>>>>
>>>> >http://gotze.eu/2007/09/netherlands-picks-odf.html
>>>>
>>>> > Related:
>>>>
>>>> > Microsoft accused of ballot stuffing in standards vote
>>>>
>>>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> > | The Russian Government has taken a step towards endorsing ODF through
>>>> > | an e-government program that would mandate use of software that
>>>> > | conforms to "widely used standards" in all government contracts.
>>>> > |
>>>> > | According to the Russian Ministry of Information Technologies and
>>>> > | Communications "within the project to form an e-government concept in
>>>> > | the Russian Federation, support of ISO/IEC 26300: 2006 is planned."
>>>> > |
>>>> > | The move has been welcomed by the Open Document Format Alliance, which
>>>> > | said in a statement that Russia is "sending a message worldwide that
>>>> > | software should be affordable, innovative and accessible, now and for
>>>> > | the foreseeable future."
>>>> > `----
>>>>
>>>> >http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/08/29/microsoft_ooxml_sweeden_r...
>>>>
>>>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opendocument_adoption
>>>>
>>>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> > | Contents
>>>> > |
>>>> > |     * 1 United States
>>>> > |           o 1.1 Massachusetts
>>>> > |                 + 1.1.1 References
>>>> > |           o 1.2 Other states and organizations in the US
>>>> > |                 + 1.2.1 References
>>>> > |     * 2 Europe
>>>> > |           o 2.1 EU Definition of an open standard
>>>> > |           o 2.2 United Kingdom
>>>> > |                 + 2.2.1 Bristol City Council
>>>> > |           o 2.3 Belgium
>>>> > |           o 2.4 Finland
>>>> > |           o 2.5 Slovakia
>>>> > |     * 3 Other governments
>>>> > |           o 3.1 Australia
>>>> > |           o 3.2 India
>>>> > |           o 3.3 Japan
>>>> > |           o 3.4 Malaysia
>>>> > |           o 3.5 Peru
>>>> > |           o 3.6 Vietnam
>>>> > |           o 3.7 Other
>>>> > |     * 4 See also
>>>> > |     * 5 References
>>>> > `----
>>>>
>>> 
>>>  > The trolls are making fun of the smallness of some of the countries
> 
> They would.  They'll try anything to hide the rapid and increasing rate
> at which Microsoft is losing pretty much every battle going.  I can see
> them sat at their computers, with their hands over their eyes saying
> "lalalalalalalal" as loud as they can.
> 
>>> 
>>> In the UN and other international forums, every country gets ONE vote.
>>> 
>>> -Ramon
>> 
>> That's an idealistic view. What happens when one buys the votes of others,
>> in which case the wealth of a country can be used to buy influence?
> 
> Actually, my own experience of the UN was that it was not anything like
> so corrupt as the ISO and other bodies seem to be, but that the
> delegates (each of us was a representative of our country, so I would
> represent HMG) would coordinate for a national position and try to reach
> it where possible.
> 
> Larger countries tended to have more influence, but not more actual
> votes.  Your case below is more about the ISO, I think?

I've collected a lot of evidence to show that ISO is corrupted by the money as
well. If needed, I can easily fetch it. :-)

>> Case of point:
>> 
>> Corrupt countries were more likely to support the OOXML document format
>> 
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| Is this just a random coincidence? The median of the CPI index of the above
>>| mentioned 70 countries is 3.95. Of the most corrupted half (CPI index less
>>| than 3.95) 23 or 77% voted for approval (approval or approval with
>>| comments) and 7 or 23% for disapproval; 5 abstained. Of the least corrupted
>>| half (CPI index more than 3.95) 13 or 54% voted for approval and 11 or 46%
>>| voted for disapproval; 11 abstained - see the table below.
>> `----
>> 
>> http://www.effi.org/blog/kai-2007-09-05.en.html
>> 
>> Microsoft accused of more OOXML standards fiddling
>> 
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| However the 11 new countries are refusing to say how they will vote. These
>>| include Cote d'Ivoire, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Malta, Pakistan,
>>| Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela. Most people seem to
>>| think that these have been put there by Vole to make sure the standard gets
>>| pushed through.
>> `----
>> 
>> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42106
>> 
> 
> 

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