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Re: ODF and binary data--why do you ignore it, Roy?

____/ Jesper Lund Stocholm on Monday 25 February 2008 22:01 : \____

> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> news:1326774.0QbyTOpFNq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> 
>> ____/ Jesper Lund Stocholm on Monday 25 February 2008 07:34 : \____
> 
>>> How would you embed another application in a file? OOXML is a
>>> document format - not an application or platform.
>> 
>> The file can contain a description of an executable (or a pointer to a
>> peripheral one). OOXML can contain arbitrary binaries, as well as
>> Windows-only bits of code. I'll provide examples if you requires them.
                                                                  ^
                                                        typo.

> Please do. Any document format can contain arbitrary binary chunks and if
> you feel like it, you can stuff an ODF-file with Linux-only bits of code
> until it makes your face blue.
> 
> I don't see why it is a problem. Any document producer can put anything
> they wish in the files.
> 
> What do you think the alternative should be?

With all the Microsoft agents in this newsgroup, I don't know what noise you
get exposed to (I filter them out), but here are some pointers taken from the
past week (ish) alone:

This binary part supports the storage of arbitrary user-defined data.

,----[ Quote ]
| <Relationships xmlns="…">
| <Relationship Id="rId7"
| Type="http://.../customProperty"; Target="CustomProperty.bin"/>
| </Relationships>
| 
| [...]
| 
| Conclusion: Since there is no requirement on the format of the content, any 
| vendor can put its proprietary binary extensions in there. 
| 
| Good Bye Interoperability!
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41994/good-bye-interoperability-3-with-binaries-inside

OOXML Contains Proprietary Microsoft Codecs (as 'Standard')

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41316/good-bye-interoperability-2-with-proprietary-audio-and-video-formats


DIS-29500: Deprecated before use?

,----[ Quote ]
| Simultaneously, ECMA addresses this in Response 34 of its proposed 
| Disposition of Comments by removing all references to idiosyncrasies from the 
| specification and placing them in a newly formed Annex for deprecated 
| information. With the removal of this information from the DIS-29500, the  
| design goal of MS-OOXML can no longer be met. The entire specification has 
| therefore effectively become obsolete.    
`----

http://fsfeurope.org/documents/msooxml-idiosyncrasies

I can find you comments from the DIS-29500 Web sites which clearly indicate
that there are deprecated Windows-only printing functions right there inside
OOXML.  There are many similar examples, but given the flood here of Microsoft
agents I don't think it's the right place to discuss this.

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