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[News] The Secretive OOXML BRM is Horrible News to Microsoft Integrity, Cash Cow

  • Subject: [News] The Secretive OOXML BRM is Horrible News to Microsoft Integrity, Cash Cow
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:54:43 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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Interview with Vint Cerf, by Sean Daly

,----[ Quote ]
| Cerf: We saw that walled gardens are NOT what users want. They want freedom 
| to interact with everyone in convenient and standards-compliant ways. I do 
| not think we will see walled gardens of the previous kind, but I do worry 
| when global standards are adopted that are likely to be implementable by only 
| one vendor. When global standards processes are overly influenced by 
| proprietary interests, they cease to facilitate interoperability and 
| competitive implementation. I do worry when standards are adopted that have 
| potential encumbrances or that erode the openness that has been a hallmark of 
| the Internet since its origins.         
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080303140032154

The BRM made things even worse for MS

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft tries to blame all negative criticism on fanaticism, covert 
| influence from IBM and an unreasonable anti-Microsoft attitude. I would be 
| more inclined towards regarding a blank approval without comments as a sign 
| of corruption or gross incompetence.   
| 
| Where is it most likely that you will find corruption and a lack of 
| experience: in long standing P-members, or in small newcomers without even a 
| proper national standards committee?   
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-44354/the-brm-made-things-even-worse-for-ms

Quite a list they've got there:

Irregularities

http://www.noooxml.org/irregularities


Related:

The OOXML BRM: Secrets and statistics

,----[ Quote ]
| Of all the “condensed” resolutions from ECMA, approximately 82% were not 
| discussed at all, including counter proposals for these same issues. That 
| leaves about 18% that were either discussed and voted on or else voted on 
| early in batch. (I’m fine with batch votes for minor typographical fixes.)   
| 
| What an utter and predictable embarrassment.
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http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=2090


The Art of Being Mugged

,----[ Quote ]
| The four options presented were:
| 
|     * Option 1: Submitter's responses (Ecma's) are all automatically 
|       approved. 
|     * Option 2: Anything not discussed is not approved.
|     * Option 3: Neutral third-party (ITTF) decides which Ecma responses are 
|        accepted 
|     * Option 4: Voting (approve + disapprove) must be at least 9 votes. 
|       Abstentions not counted. 
| 
| We were told that these options are not in the Directives and that were are 
| given these choices because ITTF "needs to act in the best interests of the 
| IEC". I don't quite get it, but there appears to be some concern over what 
| the press would think if the BRM did not handle all of the comments. One NB 
| requested to speak and asked, "I wonder what the press would think about 
| arbitrarily changed procedures?". No response. I thought to myself, why 
| wasn't ITTF thinking about the 'best interests" of JTC1 when they allowed a 
| 6,045 page Fast Track submission, or ignored all those contradiction 
| submissions, or decided to schedule a 5-day BRM to handle 3,522 NB comments. 
| Isn't it a bit late to start worrying about what the press will think?         
| 
| We break for lunch.
| 
| After lunch and after more discussion, the meeting adopted a variation of 
| option 4, by removing the vote minimum. I believe in this vote the BRM and 
| ITTF exceeded its authority and violated the consensus principles described 
| in JTC1 Directives.   
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/03/art-of-being-mugged.html

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