"Abstain from voting"
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| Evil! "Abstain from voting" means no new vote will get submitted, so the
| September vote will be carried! In the case of Poland it was an approval vote
| for the OOOXML standard with comments attached. Yes, Poland felt it could
| support the approval of a standard candidate that got more than 2300 pages of
| dispositions of comments. And now the logic I fail to get is: if we fail to
| approve we do nothing and carry the previous approval vote. ISO procudures
| sometimes feel like a witch test.
|
| "Abstain from voting" != submission of an "Abstain" vote.
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-48992/abstain-from-voting
Weird stuff elsewhere in Europe as well:
,----[ Quote
| Here is one comment that must have slipped off the table and got overlooked,
| a comment the Czech Republic attached to its vote in September:
|
| Coexistence of two very similar international standards such as ODF and
| OOXML is undesirable in a long term perspective. Therefore we ask JTC1 to
| start work on a progressive harmonization of both formats in cooperation
| with OASIS and ECMA organizations which are originators of these document
| formats.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2008032520072575
Did Microsoft slip something into someone's drink? Someone's wallet? Also:
A response to Patrick Durusau: Who Loses If OpenXML Loses?
,----[ Quote
| The only one who loses if DIS 29500 fails is Microsoft, who's Office 2007
| cashcow will run into trouble. Everyone else, including the OpenDocument
| Format, do not need an ISO stamp of approval on DIS 29500. The current Ecma
| 376 standard, flawed as it is, is more than enough to work with. Putting an
| ISO stamp of approval on that document does not suddenly make it “more
| interoperable” or a better spec. Unless Microsoft stops working with Ecma,
| but that is not ISO's problem. It's Microsoft's and Ecma's problem. Besides
| all that, Ecma can still resubmit Ecma 376 through the regular ISO process
| and gain approval in a few years when the standard has been properly reviewed
| and fixed. That's too late for the Microsoft Office cashcow of course, but
| that is not ISO's concern.
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http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/101017/index.html
"If you flee the rules, you will be caught. And it will cost you dearly,"
-- Neelie Kroes (about Microsoft), February 27th, 2008
Recent:
Poland Fails to Approve OOXML; Chairman Decides Members Can Vote by Email 10
More Days - huh?
,----[ Quote ]
| This is different. There is a report by Borys Musielak of PolishLinux.org
| that Poland met to vote on OOXML on Thursday. Of 45 members of the committee
| eligible to vote, 24 showed up to vote, and it split almost down the middle,
| with 12 for, 10 against and 2 abstaining. This is extraordinary, since Poland
| voted yes in September, despite the technical committee being opposed. I call
| that progress.
|
| But here is the worrying part: when it became clear that there was no
| consensus, and it was not going to be a Yes vote, the chairman "decided to
| allow the missing members to vote by e-mail during the next 10 days".
|
| What to make of a process that keeps reinventing itself as it goes along?
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080322203811784
No consensus over OOXML in Poland, yet
,----[ Quote ]
| Last Thursday PKN (Polish Normalization Committee) had a meeting on which it
| was supposed to come up with the decision concerning Polish recommendation
| for ISO/IEC DIS 29500 (OOXML) proposed standard. The common stance has not
| been acheived.
|
| [...]
|
| Yes, we do know a few more details concerning the process and the type of
| dirty politics that took place just before and during the meeting, but we are
| not going to releal it just yet, hoping that the chairman of KT 182 and the
| PKN itself makes a proper decision in the end (which is to abstain from
| voting as there has been no consensus about OOXML in KT).
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http://polishlinux.org/poland/no-consensus-over-ooxml-in-poland-yet/
Related:
ODF Alliance Hails Brazil, India, Italy, and Poland for Recognizing
OpenDocument Format
,----[ Quote ]
| The OpenDocument Format Alliance (ODF Alliance), a broad
| cross-section of organizations, academia and industry dedicated
| to improving access to electronic government documents, today
| applauded Brazil's decision to recommend ODF as the government's
| preferred format; India's decision to use ODF at a major state
| government agency; and Italy's decision to recognize ODF as
| national standard.
|
| The Alliance also recognized Poland, too, for demonstrating serious
| interest in adopting ODF in the wake of a national meeting held for
| its government with broad participants from industry and non-profit
| agencies.
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http://www5.sys-con.com/read/306120_p.htm
Poland against OOXML?
,----[ Quote ]
| Polish Technical Committee no 171 has just voted 80% against the adoption
| OOXML as an ISO standard [PL].
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http://polishlinux.org/poland/poland-against-ooxml/
Polish National Interoperability Framework promotes Open Standards
,----[ Quote ]
| This basically means that Microsoft’s Office Open XML will not be
| treated as open standard, thus not preferred in Polish e-Government
| services, making OpenDocument Format the office standard of choice.
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http://polishlinux.org/gnu/polish-national-interoperability-framework-promotes-open-standards/
Poland says "Yes, with comments" to OOXML
http://sciitnews.com/news_4055.html
Poland votes yes on OOXML
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| Several protests were sent already to PKN and TC 182 on behalf of: Free and
| Open Source Foundation, TC 171 members, Google Poland, IBM Poland, but I
| really doubt they will make the difference in Polish vote among ISO. The
| whole process was planned to the last minute so that there is not enough time
| to protest or make any changes. Although it is not as clear situation of
| vote-buying as in Sweden, it strikes me as something from typical Microsoft
| lobbying portfolio.
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http://wanted.eu.org/en/computers/microsoft/poland_votes_yes_on_ooxml
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