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Re: Troll-Free COLA Stats: Saturday the 1st of November, 2008.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:50:11 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

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> ____/ Mark Kent on Wednesday 05 November 2008 09:47 : \____
>> High Plains Thumper <highplainsthumper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>> Homer wrote:
>>>> Verily I say unto thee, that High Plains Thumper spake thusly:
>>>>> Homer wrote:
>>>>>> [1]: Certain off-charter, abusive, anti-Linux or
>>>>>> pro-Microsoft threads will be dropped, depending on their
>>>>>> severity, and hence not included in the stats, which are
>>>>>> provided by me as a measure of advocacy, not as a means of
>>>>>> spreading the Trolls' lies and malice even further.
>>>>> Just think Homer, if we had a
>>>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy.moderated group, you would not have
>>>>> to produce t[r]oll free stats.  The trolls would be
>>>>> moderated out.   :-)
>>>> I'm not naive enough to think that a group like COLA[M] won't
>>>> attract Trolls, especially given Microsoft's documented
>>>> intentions in that regard ("Evangelism is War!"). And as
>>>> others have pointed out COLA is more like a bar than some
>>>> private club ("Is this the right room for an argument?"),
>>>> which serves as a honey pot to attract all the kooks and
>>>> shills that would otherwise infest other Linux groups.
>>>> That doesn't mean I have to read any of their putrid garbage
>>>> tho', and it certainly doesn't mean I have to propagate it in
>>>> the stats.
>>>> As I've said before, I would no more consider including the
>>>> Trolls crap in the stats than any other spam. It's not
>>>> advocacy. Period.
>>> Homer, of course it isn't.  However, I have seen enough of:
>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
>>> [quote]
>>> 7.1 Disinformation
>> <snip>
>> The argument that cola protects the rest of the internet is fine in
>> principle, but quite clearly, it doesn't work.  Take a look at digg,
>> slashdot, linux today, etc. etc.  They're all infested with the same
>> trolls which operate here, or variations thereof.
>> We're dealing here with people with no morals, sociopathic people.
>> Erik, Timmy, Bill Weisg, Gary Stewart etc. etc. have never had any
>> intention of abiding by this group's charter and/or FAQ.  This is what
>> sociopaths do...  they will do this whether cola exists or not, because
>> it's in their nature to be so.
> If they get ejected from COLA, they'll harass other sites/forums (they already
> do this). Wasn't COLA created to keep those creatures away from technical NGs?

As Mark pointed out, they're *already* doing this. 
Smith, Quack, Flatfish & others are, or have been, *already* posting (or
crossposting into) in tech groups (Ubuntu for one). So in some respects,
COLA ain't working...
Flatfish used his usual MO, too. All nice & friendly, then the usual crap
began to creep in. Many quickly binned him.

Most people are sheep.  
Microsoft is very effective 
at fleecing the flockers.

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