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Watch what Allchin said some months before SCO attacked Linux... also and IDC
puppet 'study'.. fear of Linux
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MR. O’NEILL: We have about 15 minutes left. I want to make sure if there are
other topics -
MR. ALLCHIN: want to switch gears unless you have one last thing.
MR. VINOKUR: Well, one of the questions you had - part of the question you had
was Linux.
MR. ALLCHIN: Yeah, I’m about to get there.
MR. VINOKUR: I will let you lead.
MR. VINOKUR: I will let you lead.
MR. ALLCHIN: - want to know first your -- you guys are important partners for
us so -- and you’re out promoting our products.
We feel a huge threat from Linux. Maybe we shouldn’t, which is a question you
could answer from your perspective, but we’re trying to -- you know, there’s
many characteristics of Linux. There’s Linux the community. We’re going to
learn from Linux the community. Incredible what they aid. You know, our
shared source effort, people on our news groups, our commitment to MVP’s.
We’re on that one. We’re going to woodshed, woodshed. We’re going to practice
and practice and practice.
[...]
MR. ALLCHIN: -- and improve. The second is GPL. GPL is the licensing model. We
think it’s very bad for -- on an education, telling the world why we think
it’s bad. We don’t think it’s the same as public domain. Somebody wants to put
in a free DSB, we don’t have a problem with that, at least on licensing. But
GPL, we think it’s very bad basically for the world, but especially for the
United States.
Third is the product and we’re going to go compete with Linux. So what I want
to know is how, from your perspective, are our product not matching up today;
what should we, in your opinion, be doing about it? It could range
from, "Nothing. It’s not a problem. Don’t worry about it," to, "Boy, you got a
real problem here and you’d better do X." So that’s what I would like
to hear about.
[...]
MR. ALLCHIN: Don’t you think -- just to push on that a little bit. For the
whole discussion that we just had about that it’s a traction of the cost. And
we know -- there’s a study going to come out from IDC that shows that Linux
costs companies more, but -
[...]
MR. ALLCHIN: Let me ask you another question. When you install these boxes of
Linux for customers, do they even think about any of the licenses? Do they
worry about the issue that there’s indemnification -
MR. VINOKUR: That’s the first thing the first thing they ask is, what about
this licenslng on Microsoft? No, there’s no licensing.
MR. ALLCHIN: But do they -- but there is licensing.
MR. VINOKUR: There is, but -
MR. ALLCHIN: And there’s going to be a patent lawsuit on Linux. It’s bound to
happen. I’m just asking -not and the patent lawsuit won’t really be about the
license. It will be simply, "Hey, these guys took intellectual property." And
whether the lawsuit comes from Wind River or in X, Y, Z, there’s going to be
one. Guaranteed. As I sit here today, I will guarantee you at some point
there's going to be a challenge about the patents. Not about the license per
se.
MR. MARTIN: Class action lawsuit.
MR. WATTS: The ones we deal with, as I said, most of those right now are a lot
of the law enforcement, and lot of those guys have -- of course they think
they’re impregnable even with the Microsoft license. They have a hard enough
time with that one. Someone gets XP and they all want to put it on. Guys, you
don’t do that. But as for that part, they think -
MR. ALLCHIN: Not just -- no one’s thinking about it. They think there is no
license.
MR. WATTS: Yeah.
MR. VINOKUR: Well, no, you’re talking about, you know, how it’s freely
available. You buy one box from Redhead and then you go put it on a hundred if
you want. And they say it themselves, Redhead says it, Suse says it, you know.
It’s the support that they want from you. Or if you need the support because
you have questions, then you call them -
MR. ALLCHIN: The point that I’m trying to understand, that there’s -- there’s
indemnification that is being passed on when you buy products from Microsoft.
You don’t get that. And eventually, you know, in the litigious society that we
live in, something is going to happen.
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PDF: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/px07175.pdf
"[Microsoft's] Mr. Emerson and I discussed a variety of investment structures
wherein Microsoft would 'backstop,' or guarantee in some way, BayStar's
investment.... Microsoft assured me that it would in some way guarantee
BayStar's investment in SCO."
--Larry Goldfarb, Baystar, key investor in SCO
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