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____/ Homer on Thursday 08 Oct 2009 23:07 : \____
> Verily I say unto thee, that Stalker Smith spake thusly:
>> On Oct 5, 6:42 pm, Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Stallman doesn't seem to understand free software. When the
>>> software is free, people using platforms other than the one the
>>> software was written for can port the code to their desired
>>> platform. Free doesn't mean "should write for whatever platform
>>> Stallman is using". For instance, if someone writes a cool plug-in
>>> for Photoshop, someone can port to the Gimp if that plug-in is free
>>> or open source.
>
> You don't seem to know how to read.
>
> Stallman does not redefine Free Software as something which should only
> run under GNU. He simply reaffirms the GNU philosophy that:
>
> [quote]
> A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy to the
> use of any non-free program. Proprietary software is a social and
> ethical problem, and our aim is to put an end to that problem. We can't
> stop some people from writing proprietary programs, or stop other people
> from using them, but we can and should refuse to advertise them to new
> potential customers, or to give the public the idea that their existence
> is ethical.
> [/quote]
>
> http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#References
>
> This is not a Free Software definition, it's a recommendation for
> strategy in relation to promoting Free Software, and discouraging the
> use of non-Free software.
>
> From the OP (which you apparently didn't read properly):
>
> [quote]
> The first thing we see is that the organization ducks the issue of
> users' freedom; it uses the term "open source" and does not speak of
> "free software".
>
> ...
>
> the "open source" philosophy doesn't teach developers to defend their
> freedom. If they don't understand the importance of this freedom,
> developers may succumb to Microsoft's ploys encouraging them to use
> weaker licenses that are vulnerable to "embrace and extend" or patent
> co-optation, and to make free software dependent on proprietary platforms.
>
> ...
>
> That would be harmful if it succeeds, because a program that doesn't run
> (or doesn't run well) in the Free World does not contribute to our
> freedom. A non-free program takes away its users' freedom. To avoid
> being harmed in that way, we need to reject proprietary system platforms
> as well as proprietary applications. CodePlex free add-ons to a
> proprietary base increase society's dependence on that base â the
> opposite of what we need.
> [/quote]
>
> Clear enough for you, Smith?
>
>> Stallman went that route at first. It did not go so well for him.
>> That is why he came up with GPL ... in part to keep from getting
>> screwed by "freetards" that took his code, changed it, and stiffed
>> him with unsolvable support calls.
>
> Stallman's motive for discouraging mixing Free Software with proprietary
> platforms has nothing to do with support issues. He is only concerned
> about the users' freedom being compromised, and that the spread of Free
> Software onto proprietary platforms will only serve to promote those
> platforms further, which is antithetical to the GNU philosophy.
>
>>> People are in fact going to write programs for Windows (and for
>>> Mac), and write plug-ins for proprietary programs. Would Stallman
>>> be happier if those programmers made their code non-free?
>
> I can't speak for Stallman, but /my/ answer to that question would be an
> emphatic *yes*.
>
> At least it would keep non-Free software, its tainted developers, and
> its "evangelism" firmly /away/ from Free Software platforms.
ACCESS comes to mind.
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