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____/ Phil Da Lick! on Monday 18 Jan 2010 14:51 : \____
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> ____/ Homer on Sunday 17 Jan 2010 20:17 : \____
>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>>> Keeping negotiations secret is how "you get big fees to be a lobbyist,"
>>> since only the "insiders" have access to the process [said Jamie Love of
>>> Knowledge Ecology International].
>>> KeithCU recently postulated that lobbying would never be outlawed, since
>>> it's a constitutional issue of Free Speech, but how "Free" should speech
>>> be, in a democratic society, that denies those whom it affects access to
>>> this "speech"? Unelected lobbyists have the "Freedom" to decide our fate
>>> in private, without recourse or debate?
>>> That's not Freedom, it's an abuse of power, and perversion of democracy.
>> But there are no democratic countries out there. The Democratic Model is
>> utopian (and a euphemism). In fact, the United States was never established
>> as a democratic state; this was explicit.
> Democracy is an illusion anyhow. TPTB just wouldn't put important
> decisions to the people. When all major parties all follow this line
> that leave John Q Public effectively powerless.
Another illusion is freedom of speech (and "unlimited" bandwidth).
Drawing the âonlineâ line on free speech
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| When and where do we draw the line on free speech?
| Thatâs âweâ as in you and I, and our fellow citizens â and the âwhereâ
| increasingly involves the Internet.
~~ Best of wishes
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and weigh only 1 1/2 tons. -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949
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