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[News] Samba's Tridgell Warns About Patent Trolls and Samba's Allison Speaks About Corrupt OOXML Process

  • Subject: [News] Samba's Tridgell Warns About Patent Trolls and Samba's Allison Speaks About Corrupt OOXML Process
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:07:32 +0000
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linux.conf.au 2010: Day 5 (morning)

,----[ Quote ]
| Andrew Tridgell: Patent defence for free 
| software
| 
| I missed the start of this talk, but when I 
| arrived, Andrew was explaining how to read 
| and interpret patent claims. This is even 
| less obvious than one might suppose. He 
| offered advice on which parts to read first, 
| and which could be disregarded or referred 
| to only as needed.
| 
| Invalidating a patent entirely is difficult, 
| but because patents are interpreted very 
| narrowly, inventions can often be shown to 
| be âdifferent enoughâ from the patented one.
| 
| Where âworkaroundsâ are found, which enable 
| free software to interoperate or solve a 
| problem in a different way than described in 
| a patent, Andrew says it is important to 
| publish them far and wide. This helps to 
| discourage patent holders from attacking 
| free software, because the discovery and 
| publication of a workaround could lead to 
| them losing all of their revenue from the 
| patent (as their licensees could adopt that 
| instead and stop paying for licenses).
`----

http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/01/21/linux-conf-au-2010-day-5-morning/

Samba guru Jeremy Allison reflects on Open XML standardisation

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-213161/samba-guru-jeremy-allison-reflects-on-open-xml-standardisation


Related:

Microsoft OOXML: Dead Format Walking

,----[ Quote ]
| Since most Office users would be happy to continue using Microsoft's old
| binary formats, and since those for whom open standards are important would
| probably prefer ODF or PDF formats anyhow, I won't be surprised if OOXML
| quietly dies before that future Office iteration ever sees the light of day.
`----

http://blogs.eweek.com/brooks/content/office/microsoft_ooxml_dead_format_walking.html


ISO Fantasy

,----[ Quote ]
| What OOXML Is  The ISO process, brutal and corrupt as it was, has been
| covered to death by everyone. Its output, soon to be known as ISO/IEC 29500,
| differs from ECMA-376 in two ways. Â
|
| [...]
|
| What Microsoft really wanted was that ISO stamp of approval to use as a
| marketing tool. And just like your mother told you, when they get what they
| want and have their way with you, theyâre probably not gonna call you in the
| morning.
`----

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/04/15/OOXML


BE, NL: governments will not use ISO OOXML

,----[ Quote ]
| Asked to comment on last week's ISO approval for OOXML, Fedict's chief IT
| architect, Peter Strickx, said: "There will have to be multiple
| implementations, in order for us not to become dependent on a single vendor.
| It will also have to be compatible with open standards that we already use,
| in this case Open Document Format ODF."
`----

http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/7562


DE: German Foreign Ministry will not use ISO OOXML

,----[ Quote ]
| In the weeks prior to the second round of votes last September,
| irregularities were reported in the standard committees in many participating
| countries. These claims  continued until after the final discussion, in
| February and March this year.
|
| The European Commission has started an investigation into the allegations.
| The Commission sent a letter to all EU national standards committees in
| Europe, requesting information about the process. Sources at the Commission
| declined to comment, as the investigation is on-going and no official
| position has yet been adopted.
`----

http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/7561


Software wars

,----[ Quote ]
| Allegations of committee-stuffing, the outcome of votes overridden by
| political appointees, a final decision that many involved consider tainted:
| this may sound like a discredited election in some third world country. But
| it is actually a description of an ugly fight over international technical
| standards that wrapped up this week. Microsoft came out on top, but at the
| cost of tarnishing its reputation and the credibility of an important
| back-room process that oils the wheels of many global industries.
`----

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/c9743360-01a8-11dd-a323-000077b07658,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fc9743360-01a8-11dd-a323-000077b07658.html%3Fnclick_check%3D1&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworlduk.com%2Ftool


Martin Bryan: we are getting âstandardization by corporationâ

,----[ Quote ]
| A November informative report of Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34
| WG1 highlights the fallout of the ECMA-376 fast-track process for ISO. He
| says he is 'glad to be retiring before the situation becomes impossible'
|
| [...]
|
| In what is an astonishingly outspoken report, Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 has given us insight into the total mess that Microsoft/ECMA
| have caused during their scandalous, underhand and unremitting attempts to
| get - what is a very poorly written specification {i.e. DIS 29500 aka OOXML,
| AR} - approved as an ISO standard. â
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-30107/martin-bryan:we-are-getting-standardization-by-corporation


Dysfunctional ISO - Courtesy of Microsoft

http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2007/12/dysfunctional-iso-courtesy-of-microsoft.html


Microsoft accused of stacking ISO committee

,----[ Quote
| In a memo sent following his last meeting as head of the working group on
| WG1, which is handling Microsoftâs application to make the Word format an ISO
| standard as ECMA 376, outgoing Governor Martin Bryan (above), an expert on
| SGML and XML, accused the company of stacking his group.
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1777


EU Commission Investigating Microsoft's MSOOXML Push

,----[ Quote ]
| I hope they think to investigate the smear campaigns that seem to always
| happen to anyone on the other side from Microsoft. What happened to Peter
| Quinn was by no means unique.
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080208151410252


Protest in front of Town Hall for Document Freedom

,----[ Quote ]
| The protest organized by FSUG and FCI seems to have attracted a lot of
| deserved attention, despite the hurried execution.
`----

http://hpnadig.net/blog/Protest-for-Document-Freedom


Techies protest proprietary standards; seek policy

,----[ Quote ]
| Ever since the International Standardisation Organisation (ISO) vote on April
| 2 adopted Microsoftâs Office Open XML (OOXML) as a document standard, techie
| blogs and websites have been inundated with posts and articles voicing their
| opposition to proprietary software and technical issues with the new
| standard.
`----

http://www.hindu.com/2008/04/15/stories/2008041554380500.htm
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