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____/ none of your buisiness on Monday 14 Jun 2010 03:19 : \____
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>>>>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
>>>>> Message-ID: <9tOdnewW4KkQ94_RnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> X-Usenet-Provider:http://www.giganews.com
>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.171.171.133
>>>>>
>>>>> The luser is back, Duane Arnold.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "level3.net Troll's Nick-list Keeper"
>>>>> <i.m.nonnym...@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:41:39 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> Subject: Update: level3.net troll's nicks
>>>>>
>>>>> [quote]
>>>>> He posts either via earthlink.net or level3.net (preferred)
>>>>> His IP address will ALWAYS be:
>>>>> 4.224.xxx.xxx or 4.225.xxx.xxx
>>>>> He posts using: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914)
>>>>>
>>>>> Most recent list:
>>>>> Terry's Web Server
>>>>> Paragon Falcon (he can't spell "Peregrine")
>>>>> COLA Gone Wild
>>>>> Terry Porter (spoof of real poster)
>>>>> Sorry Linux Pimps
>>>>> [snip long lists]
>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>
>>>>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/21de910944e...
>>>>
>>>> Notice how the wintrolls respond when confronted with facts. If
>>>> the BT is not flatfish, he certainly behaves like him.
>>>>
>>>> Lesson #1 in Microsoft evangelist school is to attack the
>>>> messenger, whenever the message cannot otherwise be discredited.
>>>> In this case, Richard Clarke carries a great deal of credibility,
>>>> and even if you don't agree with his opinions, he is certainly
>>>> telling the truth about how Microsoft threatened to stop
>>>> cooperating with the US government if they started to use Linux.
>>>
>>> This also shifts the debate (goalposts), not only discrediting the
>>> messenger.
>>
>> I surmise it was reasons as such that the contributors to the 2002
>> official COLA FAQ included Chapter 7, "Anti-Linux Propagandists and
>> Trolls". This was written before the Comes vs Microsoft documents were
>> available, to include the Microsoft Evangelism document:
>>
>> [quote]
>> In the Mopping Up phase, Evangelism's goal is to put the final nail into
>> the competing technology's coffin, and bury it in the burning depths of
>> the earth. Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated
>> with mental deficiency, as in, "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter
>> Bunny, and OS/2."
>>
>> Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever.
>> make the complete failure of the competition's technology part of the
>> mythology of the computer industry.
>>
>> We want to place selection pressure on the companies and individuals
>> that show a genetic weakness for competitor's technologies, to make the
>> industry increasingly resistant to such unhealthy strains, over time.
>> [/quote]
>>
>> PDF page 55
>> Microsoft Evangelism
>> Comes vs. Microsoft court case
>>
>> http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf
>>
>> The following from the same evangelism document seems to support what
>> these trolls are doing. One must read this with a grain of salt:
>>
>> [quote]
>> Our weapons are psychological, economic, and political - not military.
>> No one is forced to adopt our standards at the barrel of a gun. We can
>> only convince, not compel. Those who adopt our standards do so as a
>> rational decision to serve their own ends, whatever those may be. It is
>> our job to ensure that those choosing an operating system are presented
>> with an overwhelming abundance of evidence and reasoned argument in
>> favor of our standards - so overwhelming that the choice of our
>> standards seems obvious, or (ideally) that the developer is not even
>> aware that a decision was faced, and a choice made.
>>
>> We do this by understanding the barriers that might otherwise prevent
>> the developer from adopting our standards, and removing them; by
>> understanding the inducements that might facilitate the developer's
>> adoption of our standards, and providing them; by understanding the
>> arguments of our competition, and countering them.
>> [/quote]
>>
>> From "Evangelism is War" section on PDF page 3.
>>
>> You notice that the trolls keep pushing the point that advocates and
>> those who purchase Linux computers and use Linux have mental
>> deficiencies, are sexually deviant, following the lines of "he believes
>> in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2".
>>
>> DFS keeps posting Googled or Bing'd information on Ubuntu, to make it
>> appear as it is a totally unsuitable and experimental operating system,
>> incapable of supporting the desktop.
>>
>> Flatfish (Moshe and variant nyms, total nymshifts such as "singer")
>> tries to discredit Linux capability as a real time music audio editor,
>> sequencer and playback for professional recording use.
>>
>> Nymshift as Charles Griggs:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a7f3caafd6608675
>>
>> Nymshift as Singer:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ae8052251a67da62
>>
>> My reply Singer (flatfish):
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f8ff83eaf9d28393
>>
>> Trolls are FUD'ing other Usenet groups such as rec.audio.pro to
>> discredit Linux and Linux applications. This is because as the
>> evangelism document reveals, is to prevent developers from considering
>> supporting other operating systems.
>>
>> Flatfish nymshifts as sock clogwog and Dutch nyms, with the assistance
>> of another Dutch speaking individual, Ezekiel, RayLopez99, Duane Arnold
>> "The Bee" and nyms attack individual posters with offensive lies,
>> insults, to discourage those who remain posting Linux advocacy, so they
>> can have this newsgroup to themselves.
>>
>> FUD artists such as Erik Funkenbusch, Tim Smith, amicus_curious (BillWG)
>> introduce subtle lies and ad hominems, to derail discussions.
>>
>> All these work together to help render Linux advocacy useless.
>>
>> Then add on top of that the marketing subtle lies as statistics,
>> discrediting authors such as Richard Clarke, discrediting competing
>> products and support through negative astroturf comments toward
>> competing applications, hardware, etc.
>>
>> IMHO, this Microsoft organisation is one monstrous propaganda machine
>> that rivals political propaganda machines of the cold war era. Using
>> acts of monopoly maintenance, undersells other operating systems such as
>> Linux by severely dropping their price and twisting OEMS to support
>> their cause as stated by the evangelism document.
>>
>> This is all done to prevent Linux from gaining a foothold. We have seen
>> how that the netbooks have grown in requirement to the point they are no
>> longer netbooks, extension of an obsolete operating system "Windows XP"
>> to keep Microsoft applications flowing.
>>
>> There is only one way to stop this machine, and it will have to be at
>> the behest of the worldwide governments, to continue their legal actions
>> to make things right. The other way is it fails from within, collapses
>> as we have seen a number of key officer turnovers and resignations.
>> Perhaps the two will bring it down.
>>
>> HPT
>
> This was an excellent post. this needs to be posted every couple of days so
> newcomers (and others) would see it.
>
> it is no secret that Microsoft deploys these tactics here, they do it in all
> of the tech blogs and articles too.
>
> i really would like to see the day that the Justice department really takes
> Microsoft down.
Seconded. But meanwhile there are other problems with companies like Apple,
which could choose a respectful model but instead chooses to attack
Android (Linux) with software patents and also become a censor. Still,
in many ways we're already seeing the end of Microsoft as a 'top' [bull]dog.
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