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> Roy Schestowitz stated in post 4418672.t17ZYm5mLc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 7/5/11
> 9:54 PM:
>
>>>>>>> Yet Homer claims your views are otherwise... as he has done with me and
>>>>>>> as he did with Schwartz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know nothing of Schwartz.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The Paradox of Choice discussion where Homer repeatedly talked about what
>>>>> Schwartz (the author) thought and believed and wanted - but never was able
>>>>> to quote Schwartz actually saying the things he claimed... and I was able
>>>>> to pull up multiple counter quotes from the book in question (I happen to
>>>>> have a copy and to have read it).
>>>>>
>>>>> Homer even admitted he had no copy of the book and had not read it - he
>>>>> had no idea what he was talking about.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, since I don't even know the author it means not much...
>>>> out-of-context quotes are a nasty tactic in this debate, which Creationists
>>>> also use to fraudulently claim Einstein to be an theist (he was vocally
>>>> saying the opposite when these distortions started to spread).
>>>
>>> Homer did not even try to pull up quotes to back his claims. It was just
>>> complete fabrications on his part. Homer went on and on about how Schwartz
>>> was pushing for people to limit the choices of others, how Schwartz thinks
>>> people are "stupid", how Schwartz wants all people to think alike (sometimes
>>> worded as thinking like slaves), etc. Just loony stuff. Here is an
>>> example... Schwartz's view:
>>>
>>> <http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice.html>
>>> -----
>>> "[Is the world we live in with more choice than in the past]
>>> good news or bad news? The answer is: yes. We all know what
>>> is good about it so I am going to talk about what is bad
>>> about it. All of this choice has two effects - two negative
>>> effects on people: one effect, paradoxically, is that it
>>> produces paralysis rather than liberation. With so many
>>> options to chose from, people find it very difficult to chose
>>> at all. I will give you one very dramatic example of this, a
>>> study that was done in investments in voluntary retirement
>>> plans ... for every 10 mutual funds offered, the rate of
>>> participation went down 2%. ... The second effect is even if
>>> we manage to overcome the paralysis and make a choice we end
>>> up less satisfied with the result of the choice than we would
>>> be if we had fewer options to chose from.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> And Homer's questions about his view:
>>>
>>> -----
>>> So tell me this: what laws would you enact to prohibit people
>>> from being individuals with unique preferences, and thus
>>> prevent people from having choice (and making choices for
>>> others)?
>>> -----
>>> Civilised society needs product and service providers. A fair
>>> and balanced market provides sufficient choice to cover
>>> everyone's needs. For the most part we already have that,
>>> with certain notable exceptions, but campaigners like
>>> Schwartz would like to remove that choice, because he claims
>>> it's bad for us.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Just complete fabrications. Bizarre.
>>
>> I might try to catch up with these works.
>
> It was an interesting discussion if, for no other reason, a lesson in seeing
> how poorly Homer supports his claims. He just repeatedly insisted that The
> Paradox of Choice and the author of the book made claims he could *never*
> support. It was bizarre.
Maybe he read someone who misread or misrepresented the author. Common...
misattrib. by association is not dishonest, it's the outcome of deceptive
middlemen,
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~~ Best of wishes
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