Oxford <colalovesosx@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Yes, I agree. They have some good designers (visual). But Apple's homebrew
>> > code is a total disaster and akin to Microsoft's. I will never forget all
>> > these times that OS 9 froze on me completely... or the dependence on OE/IE,
>> > which are rubbish. Rightfully, you could argue it has evolved since, but it
>> > hasn't quite...
>>
>> Don't forget that the majority of Apple's very unstable operating system
>> code (and yup, I remember it, I used 7.5 through 9 myself) was written under
>> Gasse, not under Jobs.
>
> yes, correct. OS9 and before was written by people that have long left
> Apple. That era that died 6 years ago, when Apple bought NeXT it really
> became NeXT, all of the old Apple is long gone.
>
And that's my point. The qualities of apple's programming and design staff
that insured an unstable and otherwise crappy operating system are gone, and
in are people who really know what the hell theyre doing, being led by a
person who really knows what HES doing.
I think OSX is a massive evolutionary leap from OS9, and I think you'd
be very hard pressed to find anyone to argue against that. I remember
saving my work in photoshop manually every few minutes out of habit--because
that one more mouseclick could have meant the end of the OS itself at
any moment. I then admittedly found a little piece of software, I think
it was called "macsbug" that opened up a command line debugger which, if
you read up on it, you could use to actually save the OS from going down
at that instant so you could save what you were doing with little or no
warning.
But even that was a pain in the ass, and it sucked, particularly to have
to run on a powermac that I'd just spent 6,000 USD on.
OSX is prettier, at least ten orders of magnitude more stable, much, much
more useful, and I believe is a jewel in Apple's crown on the order of
the very first Macintosh.
And dont forget, that's coming from a guy who really, really likes linux
quite a lot, and uses it quite happily every day.
>> Now, that said, I'm not planning on buying an Apple machine for a while
>> yet, and when I do it's going to be a laptop. I figure two to three years
>> from now is good enough for them to get the majority of the annoying bugs
>> worked out of their hardware/software combinations. By the time I buy
>> one, I'd like exploding batteries and glopped-on thermal paste to be a
>> thing of the past.
>
> those are simple manufacturing issues of early production runs, they
> really aren't any "annoying bugs" in the current hardware. apple played
> it safe and didn't redesign the hardware when they switch over to intel,
> sure the logicboard and some components changed, but the overall
> structure of the powerbook/macbook pro (imac/powermac/macpro/macmini)
> has remained the same. if you are considering the new macbook that's a
> bit of a different story, but that's the only machine that is new to the
> product line for several years.
>
I realize that. I understand the hardware itself is stable and well
tested. Apple simply has quite a lot to work out in terms of assembly.
I mean, that thermal paste fiasco was pretty embarrassing for them.
It was very clear that there were no instructions on its application
given to the assemblers, and there's just no excuse at all for that.
Anyhow, I'll surely by an Apple machine, it will most likely be a
laptop, and it'll be in about three years, once the quad-cores start
becoming common and they've figured out the exploding battery/thermal
paste gloop issues.
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