On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 17:35:35 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> __/ [ Stephen Fairchild ] on Saturday 10 June 2006 14:42 \__
>
>> Malware Magnet wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Aquila Deus wrote:
>>>> I tried it again yesterday, from the the latest binaries there =>
>>>> http://arch.os-zen.net/pkg/shadowhand/
>>>>
>>>> Xgl now works perfectly with other cpu-hungry games running on 2nd x
>>>> server (switch back and desktop is still responsive!), and you can
>>>> rotate desktop by moving mouse to the edges, and better effects and no
>>>> more annoying bugs in the compiz-quinn!
>>>>
>>>> You will need gconf-editor to change all the settings, set
>>>> /apps/compiz/plugins/trailfocus/screen0/options/maximum_trail_count to
>>>> 2 for normal transparency, and see
>>>> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-455153-highlight-.html for xv
>>>> performance tweaking.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> I found an easy way to test xgl...
>>> I downloaded the Kororaa live CD from:
>>> http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203
>
>
> Its inclusion of several binaries makes it sheer violation the GPL. I know
> there are torrents that will keep it alive perpetually, but it comes to show
> the importance of Open Source(-friendly) GPU's. There was a very long
> discussion about it in COLA only days ago.
The Kororaa maintainer is still awaiting a proper examination of whether
or not this is the case - in may in fact turn out to be, but it's by no
means settled yet.
>
>
>>> After testing it for a couple of days, I went ahead and installed it on
>>> the hard drive.
>>> This distro is built on Gentoo and works fairly well - just had to mind
>>> the bugs discussed on the Kororaa Web page.
>
>
> XGL is not /truly/ ready for 'prime time'. Even shadows and translucency can
> have some quirks and affect stability. The important thing is that the
> technology is there, in its productions phase. Bugs are being squashed and
> all this next-generation X will continue to evolve. Ultimately, it should
> mature to match the stability and predictability of same 'ol Xorg.
Even in this form, it's a pretty impressive thing. I've tried the Live CD
myself and when you see windows wobble and the desktop cube flip and turn
for the first time, it certainly makes an impression. It has quite a high
wow-factor.
>
>
>>> My only complaint is emerge complains constantly about dependencies and
>>> masked files. Chaning the /etc/make.conf file and other recommended
>>> settings doesn't seem to have any effect.
>>>
>>> Therefore, I had to decide if it was worth my time and effort to pursue
>>> working on this or not. After having xgl running for a while, I find it
>>> extremely difficult to give up!
>>
>> My advice would be to come back when it really is ready in say a years
>> time. With any luck it will become a fully supported module of Xorg rather
>> than a plaything.
>
>
> I am not entirely sure, but doesn't Novell's release of their business server
> in July include XGL support 'out of the box' (making it easier than 10.1,
> OpenSUSE)? I mean, they did demonstrate this in their recent
> presentations... somehow I doubt I'll see XGL adopted in actual businesses
> where play is distraction.
True enough, the eye candy aspect is definitely for the mainstream desktop
user
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Kier
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