Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> __/ [ Larry Qualig ] on Saturday 04 March 2006 13:49 \__
>
> >
> > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> >> __/ [ Larry Qualig ] on Saturday 04 March 2006 12:26 \__
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> >> >> __/ [ Larry Qualig ] on Saturday 04 March 2006 05:09 \__
> >> >>
> >> >> > Vinella wrote:
> >> >> >> Let me count the ways.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> We all know that Windoze is so easy to use...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The setup.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A plain ordinary AMD64 with XP and SP1 - about a vanilla an XP box
> >> >> >> as you
> >> >> >> can get. It can't see or be seen by the Internet since only a
> >> >> >> person who just fell off the yam wagon would put a Windows machine
> >> >> >> on the 'Net.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> You are advised to keep your Windows machine unconnected. It gets
> >> >> hijacked and hammers on Linux Web sites in scale that can be described
> >> >> as a DDOS attack. I am among the victims, since September 2005.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Purchase: One HP Scanjet 4370. About as plain a scanner as you can
> >> >> >> find. Don't ask why I am not putting this on a decent Linux box -
> >> >> >> the answer wouldn't be believed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Insert CD. Start installing. Bang! Error. "Macromedia has
> >> >> >> encountered
> >> >> >> a serious error and cannot continue." Click on continue and get an
> >> >> >> offer
> >> >> >> to send info to someone so that it can be fixed. No logs, no
> >> >> >> indication
> >> >> >> of what is wrong. Why is HP using Macromedia for a driver
> >> >> >> install??!! So that they can advertise with flash during the
> >> >> >> install?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Open the CD manually. Click on Express Install. Starts up.
> >> >> >> Crunch!
> >> >> >> Error. "The installer has incountered a fatal error and cannot
> >> >> >> continue.
> >> >> >> Reason: Internet Explorer 5.5 is required for installation." Great
> >> >> >> since
> >> >> >> I have IE6. This is a new model scanner and IE5 is years old. What
> >> >> >> the heck is this? Maybe I should try to find 5.5 and replace IE6.
> >> >> >> Besides, why does HP need a browser to install a USB scanner???
> >> >> >> Anybody get the impression that HP programmers are paid by the byte?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Click on the the button to get what passes for an error log.
> >> >> >> Messagebox pops up with some exit codes and stuff and suggests a
> >> >> >> trip to the HP web
> >> >> >> site with the info. But guess what - the box cannot be selected
> >> >> >> with the mouse or keyboard so you have to MANUALLY copy several
> >> >> >> hundred characters of codes so that you can tell HP.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Calling XP an OS has GOT to be against some kind of
> >> >> >> truth-in-advertising law - somewhere.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Vin
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have an old HP scanner (purchased back in 2001). In Ubuntu 4, I
> >> >> plugged it in for the first time and voila! Found hardware. Ran XSane,
> >> >> which comes with the Ubuntu basic installation and began scanning.
> >> >>
> >> >> In SuSE 9.3 on the other hand, life was not so easy [sarcasm /]. I was
> >> >> forced to double-click YaST, go to System -> Scanners -> Add news
> >> >> scanner and then select my scanner from a long list of supported
> >> >> scanners. When I installed SuSE, I did not include scanning software,
> >> >> so *gasp* Lo and Behold, I had to insert my SuSE CD's to have XSane
> >> >> installed. I was utterly disappointed. I was up for a little technical
> >> >> challenge. Same c**p with my Palm handheld on both Ubuntu on SuSE --
> >> >> worked without any added software and was even wizard-driven.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > And barely one week ago you had another serious computer problem....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ------------------
> >> >> >
> >> >> > - "I have XP on a high end IceCube - AMD64 1gb ram - which is wasting
> >> >> > it but I have to run my wife's Quicken 2000. Otherwise ExPee would
> >> >> > be out of here.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Windows has experienced a serious problem and has shut down to
> >> >> > protect your computer.
> >> >> > MACHINE CHECK
> >> >> > <blue screen verbage snipped out>
> >> >> > Status 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 etc"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Bill M
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Seen it several times this week. The blue shows up in XP for no
> >> >> justifiable reason whatsoever and a reboot is forced before you have
> >> >> time to thoroughly read the error message. It is usually
> >> >> network-related.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > I suspect that computers are a tad bit "too hard" for you. Seems that
> >> >> > you are incapable of anything remotely technical. Perhaps a better
> >> >> > career move for you might be something like working over at the car
> >> >> > wash or flipping burgers. Clearly you can't handle simple tasks that
> >> >> > millions of people have little to no problem with.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> With respect, I cannot believe that this comes out of *your* month,
> >> >> Larry. Been a tough day?
> >> >>
> >> >> The OP should not be put to such challenges. If he is, then the
> >> >> operating system is counter-intuitive and is prone to wasting the
> >> >> user's time. If assistance is required, it costs money too and here we
> >> >> charge GBP 20 per hour for virus removal.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Vin
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So now it's Vin??? Last week it was "Bill M" Or perhaps you prefer
> >> >> > "Robert J. Kolker" or "Gabriel Blazquez" instead? There's another
> >> >> > loser around here who makes similar posts. We call him as flatfish.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I believe it is not the case. The description seems genuine and it
> >> >> resembles stuff that I continue to see.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > "The description seems genuine..."??? It is not any different than the
> >> > "genuine descriptions" that flatfish posts every week. Why is this
> >> > description any more genuine than the survey of 300+ users that
> >> > flatfish recently did in New York City? Is it because this "genuine"
> >> > post is anti-Microsoft while flatfist is anti-Linux?
> >> >
> >> > If this post is all that genuine how do you explain away the *fact*
> >> > that last week it was "Bill M" and now it's suddenly "Vin" making these
> >> > claims? Once a liar always a liar and Bill/Vin is a liar IMO.
> >>
> >> This post arrived rather shortly after /flashfish/ in disguise had
> >> returned, so I take your point and _reluctantly_ accept it.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Roy
> >>
> >
> > Thanks Roy. COLA would be better IMO if there were less hyperbole and
> > more discussion of the facts. I don't like these sorts of posts any
> > more than the flatfish style "I installed Linux and it burned down my
> > house" crap. There are occasional moments of realism here but
> > unfortunately many people have extreme bias towards one OS or the
> > other. For many (but certainly not all) it's either Linux is perfect
> > and Windows "burnded down my house" or the opposite. The reality is
> > nowhere near this extreme and both OS's could benefit with lessons
> > learned from the other yet manage to keep their own unique identity.
> >
> > Gave a good day... I'm off to go skiing (right after I finish this cup
> > of coffee). Wife and girls are away on vacation and my son is over a
> > friends house for the weekend. I'm all alone in this house so I'm going
> > skiing with a couple of friends from work. It's about 25-degrees
> > outside but the wind is howling like crazy.
>
> In relation to both paragraphs, don't go on the T-bar
> unless it runs Linux. *smile*
Thanks for the advice.<g> I'm not a great skier but I'm certainly past
the T-bar stage. I don't know if you ski or not but the T-bar is a lot
more work than the chair lift. On a lift I can at least sit my ass down
for a few minutes and rest. On the T-bar you're on your feet trying to
keep balanced as the thing jerks around.
Too far off topic... need a Linux reference. Well I don't have one but
Solomon did have a "demo day" at the ski area yesterday. They have
these gizmos that you put your feet in and it will give you a
computerized 3D analysis of the pressure-points on your feet and camber
of your legs. They use this info to fine-tune a offset in to your
bindings to compensate for this. Cool looking stuff but I didn't bother
with it. (Line too long and I'm not looking for new equipment.) They
did this all with laptops that were running that "other" OS.
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