"Sean Inglis" <ingliss@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Hadron Quark wrote:
>> "Sean Inglis" <none@xxxxxxxx> writes:
>> > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:49:57 +0100, tjb wrote:
>> >> Sean Inglis <ingliss@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>> Please, for the love of $DEITY, stop. You have made this group unusable.
>> >>> Or, for the love of $DEITY, continue to post. You have steered this
>> >>> group on topic from a state of useless decay, and continue to
>> >>> effectively advocate Linux.
>> >> No. He has turned a discussion group into Roy's News Blog.
>> > Nonsense, anyone is free to post here. Roy is certainly prolific, but if
>> > you dislike Roy's posts, filter them out. He has gone to trouble to ensure
>> > that doing this is a trivial matter for anyone truly interested in doing
>> > so.
>> This sort of spamming occurs in no other NG that I am aware of.
> It is not spam. They are relevant on-topic posts. You need to look up
> the standard definition of spam. You also need to look at the state of
> a few other newsgroups if you genuinely consider this to be true.
Talking about Microsoft executives is NOT on target. Only slamming
windows is NOT on topic.
I suggest you read the charter yourself.
>> ALL of the posts are available elsewhere on the web : where the articles
>> Roy is doing no more than self promotion and creating redundant wastelands.
> The majority of any news or information shared originates "somewhere
> else". Your comment is meaningless.
Only for someone too stupid to understand the truth of it.
Imagine if , say, a football NG was spammed by Soccer Roy with every
link to every match report day in day out.
Its why the fucking is there : for people to browse and select their
favorite sites. Not for stealing links and bombarding a NG.
> Roy usually comments briefly, provides an abstract, and a link for
> further information. I, and others, applaud his stance and tactics.
>> This is not advocacy, it is mindless reproduction of other peoples
>> This whole "drown out the trolls" bullshit is almost laughable since the
>> trolls can kilfile him or filter the OPs too.
> It has been explained previously: Roy's postings are not made for the
> benefit of trolls, they are made to advocate Linux. The fact that
What is this "benefit of trolls" bollox?
It has actually been explained that ONE of the reason is to piss off
trolls. How they work that out is beyond me.
> frequency disrupts the attempts of trolls to drag down the group is a
> inevitable side-effect. That trolls can filter out Roy's postings in no
> way affects the relative visibility of his posts to *other* readers.
> Basic stuff.
That makes no sense whatsoever. You are going around in circles.
> The result is that regulars or visitors are almost certain to be struck
> by the preponderance of well chosen on-topic posts that - shock horror
> - advocate Linux, as opposed to pointless juvenile whining.
But he doesnt. He posts thousands of OFF TOPIC shit with, invariably,
totally meaningless rambling side notes which have no link to the
article he is referring to.
>> The argument that "dont like them then filter them" is not the fucking
>> point : the point is that if everyone acted like Roy in this or other
>> groups then usenet descends into anarchy and redundant mass postings.
> It is *exactly* the fucking point.
The you agree in NG terrorism? Great.
>> mail -> usenet gateways were banned/stopped some time ago to stop this almost
>> automaton style of NG flooding.
>> The info is already there vis RSS and natural web page access. All Roy
>> is doing is depriving the originating sites of readers and hit count.
Why is it balls? Roy doesnt write the articles you know - he harvests
them and posts them under his own name.
>> As for Mark Kents journal : what idiot would include all the bloody
>> email headers for every originating post? Yup ..... What kind of sane
>> thinker would seperate the link from the title? Yup .....
>> And what do we get? Typical fruitcake response - well why dont you post
>> your own journal ....... er no, lads, I have Roys news posts
>> blacklisted. Remember?
> Your contribution is petulant and worthless.
I advocate Linux more than you and the rest of the COLA gang ever do.
Posting hundreds of anti-MS posts is not advocacy - its pathetic.
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